Episode 30

Only Child vs. Siblings Pt. 2, ft. Nicole & Victoria

Episode 30: Sisters in Sync: A Deep Dive into Sibling Dynamics

Welcome to The Mirror Project!

Welcome back to The Mirror Project! We’re your hosts, Alexandra and Christine, and we’re thrilled to have you with us today. This episode is extra special as we continue last week’s discussion on growing up with siblings—this time with a twist! Christine's two sisters, Nicole and Torre, are joining us to share their unique perspectives, hilarious stories, and the life lessons they've learned along the way. Whether you're navigating life as an only child or have siblings of your own, this episode is packed with insights, laughter, and a whole lot of love. So grab your favorite drink, settle in, and let’s get started!

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Guest Introductions

Nicole: Christine introduces her sister Nicole, the family’s finance and accounting guru. With five years of experience in public accounting, Nicole brings both humor and wisdom to the table, making her the perfect addition to today’s sibling-centric conversation.

Victoria (Torre): Next, meet Torre, Christine's youngest sister, a powerhouse athlete and avid adventurer. From gymnastics to rock climbing, Torre’s zest for life is infectious, and her love for books and classic rock adds a delightful twist to her vibrant personality.

Sibling Dynamics and Roles

In this section, the sisters explore how birth order shaped their roles within the family and influenced their personalities. They discuss the stereotypical roles of the "test dummy," the "middle child," and the "baby" of the family, sharing personal stories that highlight the humor and truth behind these labels. Through their recollections, listeners will gain insight into how these roles created a unique family dynamic filled with laughter, love, and, of course, a few sibling squabbles.

Shared and Individual Experiences

Here, the sisters delve into their favorite family traditions and activities, revealing how the same event can be remembered differently by each sibling. They reflect on the joy and challenges of shared experiences while also highlighting those moments unique to each sister. Whether it’s a funny anecdote or a touching memory, this segment emphasizes the importance of both shared and individual experiences in shaping sibling relationships.

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Lessons Learned and Looking Back

In this heartfelt segment, the sisters share the most important lessons they’ve learned from one another and how their relationships have evolved over time. They discuss how their sibling bonds have impacted their adult lives, offering advice to listeners on maintaining strong, healthy relationships with their own siblings. This part of the conversation is filled with both wisdom and warmth, making it a poignant reflection on the enduring power of family ties.

Closing Thoughts

And that’s a wrap! We hope you enjoyed this deep dive into sibling dynamics with Christine and her sisters. It’s been a joy sharing these stories with you, and we can’t wait to hear your thoughts. Whether you’re reflecting on your own sibling relationships or learning something new, we’re so glad you joined us today. Don’t forget, we’ll be taking a short break but will be back on October 3rd with a month full of spooky and thrilling topics just in time for Halloween! Until then, keep the sibling love (and occasional bickering) alive, and we’ll see you soon.

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Transcript
Alexandra:

Hello, and welcome back lovely listeners to the mirror project.

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We are your hosts, Alexandra,

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Christine: Christine.

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Alexandra: and we are so

glad you're here today.

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We are continuing last week's

conversation and our deep dive into

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the world of growing up with siblings.

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This time.

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We have a special treat for you.

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We are joined by Christine's two sisters.

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Get ready for an episode filled

with laughter and heartfelt stories.

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From childhood escapades to the lessons

learned along the way, we'll explore

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how each sister's unique perspective and

personality shaped their experiences.

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Whether you're an only child

curious about sibling dynamics,

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or a veteran of sibling rivalry.

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There's something here for everyone.

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So sit back, relax, and let's

embark on this delightful journey

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with Christine and her sisters.

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It's going to be an episode full of love,

laughter, and maybe a few surprises.

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Let's jump in.

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Christine: Before we delve into

today's riveting topic, make sure to

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hit that subscribe, or follow button

on your Preferred listening platform.

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Take a moment to do it now

before it slips your mind.

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Trust us, we're not getting

started without you.

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Let's make this journey together.

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All right.

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So as Alexandra so beautifully said

in the intro today, we have two very

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special guests, both who have been

on the podcast before my sisters,

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Nicole and Victoria are with us again.

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And I, for one, I'm very excited

for this conversation today.

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I'm sure it'll be a lively one and yeah.

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Thank you guys so much for coming back on.

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I really appreciate you taking the time.

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Torre: Thank you for having me.

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Glad to be here.

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Nicole: Yeah, happy to be here.

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Thank you for having us.

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Christine: Totally.

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Yeah.

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Alexandra: Always are so

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happy.

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Christine: We're so happy, Alexandra.

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For those listening, Alexandra, this week

is going to be acting as our moderator.

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So thank you so much for helping

guide this conversation, Alex.

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But you guys ready to get started?

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Torre: Yes.

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Alexandra: All right.

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How about we first jump into your

sibling dynamics and the roles

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you had growing up and even today.

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So how would you guys say birth order

has affected your relationships with

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each other and your dynamics within

your family, taking into account that

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often the eldest child can be seen

as like the test dummy for parents.

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The middle child has its own stereotypes.

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And then of course,

the baby of the family.

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Christine: Who wants to jump in first?

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Alexandra: like, yeah, don't make me call

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on you guys.

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Christine: last week I really sort of

kicked off this conversation when it

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was just her and I, but why don't you

guys, I don't know, do you want to start?

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Nicole: Do you feel like

an oldest child stereotype?

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Christine: you guys agree?

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Nicole: Well,

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Torre: I would agree.

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Nicole: have middle child

syndrome for sure, but

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Torre: Definitely have felt the

baby stereotypes of the family a

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few times throughout my childhood.

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And when I was younger,

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Alexandra: has it been a benefit

to you or more an irritation?

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Torre: I think at different points

and like phases of my life, it

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was a benefit and an irritation.

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Moments where the older siblings

and parents want to give wisdom to

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the youngest member of the family.

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But of course I would say,

I want to be independent.

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I want to be like them.

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Don't tell me what to do.

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Um, but obviously now looking

back, I lean heavily on my sisters.

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What do I do?

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Prime example was last night, like

calling Nicole to get help with something.

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And.

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As you grow, you kind of

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get a better understanding

of that dynamic.

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So it's been more beneficial.

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But of course, when I was a young

teenager and like a tween, I was a brat.

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Alexandra: think as most

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Torre: those moments.

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We were all that age one point or

another, but my situation was a

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little bit different too, because.

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I, our age gap between myself

and my siblings is a lot

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bigger than their age gap.

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It wasn't just, Oh, you're

the youngest of three.

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It's you are four and six

years younger than them.

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They're out into college when I

was just starting high school.

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So I kind of navigated that on my own.

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And then obviously throughout my adult

life now, it's a little bit different

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because we're all in our twenties and

it's, the lines are a bit blurred.

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But.

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When I was kind of going through that,

I wasn't so much like younger child.

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I felt more of an only child

until Christine came back.

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Christine: Yeah, until I finished

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Torre: There was like two, there

was like a two year period though,

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where it was just me and the parents.

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And that was a very

interesting experience.

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Alexandra: Okay, so that's

before I hop over to Nicole.

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You talked about Tori about being kind

of switched over to an only child.

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Can you tell us a little bit about

that difference for you from being

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the baby now to the only child?

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What parts of that did

you like and which parts

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going

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Torre: to get close with my

parents and connect with them and

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had that opportunity to do so.

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I, it wasn't so much like a

completely different thing at times.

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I was just like, Oh my gosh,

leave me alone type of deal.

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Because they were like, Christine

and Nicole aren't around.

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So we gotta do what Tori is doing

and kind of guiding me through that.

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I did really like the, that moment

to kind of grow closer to both

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my parents, but I definitely

missed having my sisters around.

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It was a moment where I realized

the moments that I did take

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for granted when they weren't.

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Like next door where I could go

over and talk to them or ignore them

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or ask them to hang out with me.

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And definitely made me grow a lot closer,

I feel like to them, because when they

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would come home, I would only see them

for a couple of days or weeks at a

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time because they were both at school.

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So I'd be really excited for that.

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And yeah, I always.

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I personally strongly believe

in the saying distance

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makes the heart grow fonder.

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You really value that.

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So that time period kind of,

helped me value that and in

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turn grow closer to them.

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And I think that, that has kind of carried

on to like now living in different states

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and stuff and being close to my siblings.

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That was a ramble.

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Christine: No, it's great.

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Alexandra: pick on Nicole and say,

all right, tell us a little bit about

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that middle child syndrome and kind of

being the youngest for a little bit.

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And then an older sibling

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Nicole: well,

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you definitely get it kind of both.

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I guess that's what the middle child is.

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You have older I guess I definitely have

that like middle child like Tendency of

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like sometimes like the oldest kids I know

a lot of attention will be focused on them

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because like they're going Through things

for the first time and then obviously the

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youngest is the baby And then you're just

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Not to say that like I've ever been

forgotten, but like it's, I think

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definitely I have experienced having

a lot less attention, but then

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also plenty of attention at times.

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Christine: Yeah.

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Nicole: and but I think it's I,

part of that, I'm very independent.

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Obviously the parents of my sister isn't.

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Yeah.

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You know, I'll always need them

and need their help sometimes.

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But it's I have a tendency to kind

of just like go out and just do it

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by myself.

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And then I think in terms of

like, when Christine went to

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college and I was the oldest,

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that was a while ago,

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Christine: Thanks, Nicole.

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Nicole: I guess I like didn't, sorry.

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Well I was in high school.

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Christine: No.

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Nicole: it wasn't that bad.

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Cause honestly it was kind of nice.

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Cause when I was at Mount or high

school like there was one time they

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were like, what we're seeing where else

his little sister plays in the office.

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And I was like, Oh my God.

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And I think part of having that like

younger dynamics sometimes and we were

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so close in age, it was a little bit of

a shadow follow and like happy I ended

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up where I went, but it was like a lot

of okay your older sister goes here.

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You're going to go here too.

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We're not trying to drive to

different locations every morning.

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So I think just like little things

like that definitely is like, okay

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I don't care what you want to do.

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This is what you're doing.

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Again,

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Alexandra: you kind of get stuck here.

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Usually.

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All right.

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Nicole: And then when Christine went

to college, it was kind of nice.

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Cause it was like, Oh,

like then I was like

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Christine: Finally, she's gone.

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Nicole: No, like not

to say to say it was a

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bad thing, but it's You know, I

was, I didn't really necessarily

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feel like I was the oldest child.

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It's more so it's I don't know, I'm

the only one that's like here in that

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instance, and I think in school is

really the first main place I felt it.

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Uh, because Christine went to school like

25 30 minutes away, so it wasn't like,

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I think she would come home sometimes.

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So, I feel like I didn't really get

it as much as Tori did, because Tori's

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exactly like four grades below me, so

it's like I was freshman in college,

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she was freshman in high school.

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So she definitely had a

little bit more of that

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Child time, I guess And then I

guess i've never been like the

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youngest Oh, wait, before victoria

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Christine: You were for four years.

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I know.

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But who really remembers that, right?

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I mean, I was technically an

only child for two and a half.

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Nicole: I do remember there was like

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thinking as like a small kid and I don't

know why this stuck with me for so many

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years, but I was like I noticed a change

in like our parents and I just kind of

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went I was like four years old I was like

mom and dad have so much more mean lately

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and I think it's just because like I

wasn't like the youngest like baby anymore

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and also they had an infant and they

probably weren't like really something

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Christine: Yeah.

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Nicole: that but you know

felt that switch for sure but

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Torre: You've told me that a few times

and I've always felt so terrible.

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Christine: But it's not your

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Torre: It's like, awesome.

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Christine: you, Tor.

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It was, I

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Torre: Just like

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presents.

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Nicole: Exactly.

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I like maybe the hallway of the

hospital when you were born, but I

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don't know because Tori and I are a

little less than four years apart.

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So I was like

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Torre: we're like three and 18.

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Nicole: When she was

born and I don't know.

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We'd have to ask like

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Christine: remember when Tori was born.

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I was six

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Nicole: our parents probably to see.

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I think Christine was

very excited about it.

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I don't think I was nearly as excited.

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I

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don't

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Christine: I was in kindergarten.

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I actually remember we went to

a very small Catholic school.

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I've talked about it.

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If you've talked about school a few

times, you've heard me say, but It was

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a thing like the morning announcements,

Pledge of Allegiance We say a prayer

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and they usually announce birthdays and

then for whatever reason, I think they

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announce, I remember them announcing

Tori being born over the loudspeaker.

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and, And uh, Christine Browski,

little Sister Victoria was born.

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And I remember choosing to go see my

new little baby sister over going to

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a birthday party that caused some.

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Issues for my mom and the mother of

the girl who had her birthday party.

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I do also have some memories of when

Coley was born, believe it or not, even

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though I think I remember being at the

hospital, but Yeah, I definitely remember

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more of when Tori joined the fam.

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So yeah, I mean I mentioned I

definitely feel like I'm the oldest.

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I have the,

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I don't know if it's, Something, it's

something I have a love hate relationship

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with the fact that I get to go through

everything first because but there,

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there were a couple of instances where

Nicole did beat me to some things, but

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you know, I think, I heard something

once where it was like an interview

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somebody was having, they were talking

about siblings, and they said that no

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sibling is raised in the same house.

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And Because of where they

are in the birth order.

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So like their experience they

have, or think it actually was no.

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Sibling experience is the same

parents because of how each parent

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has a relationship with each kid.

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I just thought that was so interesting.

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And reflecting on that, I think it

really does inform a lot about how

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you grow up depending on where you

fall in the age order of things.

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So

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Alexandra: And I would gather that it

would also impact how each of you in

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turn, if and when you have children

would raise your children based on your

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memories of how your parents raised you

and your individual experiences with that.

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Christine: certainly.

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Alexandra: All right.

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So to kind of jump to a slightly

later subject, how about each of

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you describe the other siblings and

what their personality is and then

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we'll see if that person agrees.

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Christine: Ooh, that's fun.

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Should we do three describe the person in

three words or what are we feeling guys?

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Alexandra: Yeah, let's do that.

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Okay.

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All right, Tori, you want to

start with Christine or Nicole?

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Torre: Sure.

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Now I have

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Christine: It doesn't have to be three.

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It just was a starting point.

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Whatever you want to say.

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I don't know.

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What's easier.

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Torre: I would describe Christine as

like a very homebody, gentle person that

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would be Nancy Myers in another life.

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Just like,

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Christine: I love Nancy Meyers.

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She makes great movies.

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Torre: yeah, it's just it's very

sweet, wholesome, like compassion.

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Not to say that Nicole's not that either.

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But when I think of Nicole, I think

of someone that's very independent.

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Like strong minded, like sets herself a

goal and won't stop until she achieves it.

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And you both are very similar where you're

both very driven and you have the same

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tendencies, but whereas Nicole is, willing

to jump from the nest and go straight

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abroad for her first semester of college.

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Christine definitely values staying

closer to home and being closer to

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the parents and the family and stuff.

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And I think being your

sister, I can kind of get out.

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Like I go to Christine when I want

to feel like safe and warm and cozy

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and talk about books and, you know,

Like just a warm fuzzy blanket.

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And then the cold where I want

to go and experience new things.

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And like kind of like more I don't

know, like not like thrill seeking,

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but just like a spawn spontane, I don't

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know the word.

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One of you two just said

it that type of vibe.

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As well as because Nicole and

I had similar majors because

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we were both in business.

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So I also kind of went to her to get her

guidance and experience on that as well.

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With teen, I would definitely go to you.

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This is like such a ramble.

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Sorry.

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Go to you for like advice

on different things and

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Christine: Sure.

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Thanks for

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Torre: cozy, cozy marshmallow.

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I just thought of something really funny.

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This is a really good thing when I say

this, but Nicole's like a bald eagle.

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Just like flies and does her own thing.

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Just to the beat of her own drum.

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Christine: all right,

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Alexandra: All right.

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Christine: that's cool.

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Torre: Sorry, I should stop talking.

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Alexandra: All right, so

Nicole, do you want to jump in

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and share your descriptions of

your sister's personalities?

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Nicole: Yeah, I definitely would

kind of agree with Tori a little bit.

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I think Christine is a lot

more nurturing and loving.

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Sometimes a little too

nice to other people.

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And she's definitely you are a homebody

Not like you're never leaving mom and

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dad's house, you know what I mean?

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Like you're, you just to be around

like your family and what's I

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think family is super big for you.

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I think it's really big for all of

us and being close to that is huge.

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And then Tori, again, a little bit more

like we both went away for school and

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then Tori just came back from the salon.

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Christine: never came back from Boston.

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Nicole: I guess that too.

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I've come back a good amount, though.

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So I

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definitely think Tori is a little

bit more willing to kind of just

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go and experience new things.

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But she definitely always still needs us.

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Love you.

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Always be there for your cause.

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Oh, this I also would say, I think Tori

is very She's definitely got like a fun

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energy and she's not afraid to stick

up for herself or like ever like she's

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very like strong willed I guess and is

won't tolerate things that aren't cool

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or make her unhappy whereas Christina

I think is just like almost a little

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too nice about it so there's that too

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Christine: I can be overly accommodating.

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Alexandra: You guys definitely

run the spectrum and it's a

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nice compliment to each other.

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Torre: I

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Alexandra: Christine, did you

Did you have anything you wanted

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to add about your sisters?

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I think you briefly talked about

them last week, but anything else

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Christine: yeah, I mean the

way that Nicole described Tory

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and Tory described Nicole.

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I concur.

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I agree also with their assessment of me.

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I think also just to speak very

briefly about their comments

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of how like they went up.

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They went away for

school and I stayed home.

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I did initially think I was like leaving

New Jersey and I don't quite exactly

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know why it ended up the way it did.

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I think like I did a change in what

I wanted to study, and The school

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that ended up being the fit for

me happened to be close to home.

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And then ultimately, like once that

happened, I feel like it was the

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right choice and for my personality,

sticking close to home benefited me.

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Benefited me.

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In the long run and I look to the both

of them and I'm so in awe and proud of

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the fact that they did take that leap

and Nicole went to London at 18 her 1st

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semester and Tori left to go to South

Carolina at 18 for her 1st semester.

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It was, it's definitely been like a

true privilege to watch each of them

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grow into these beautiful, independent

women, very similar, but also very

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distinctly different, I think.

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Tori is like a nice blend of Nicole

and I, I think Tori has a lot of

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similarities of interests that I have,

but also she finds that Nicole's a

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great person to go out and Nicole in

general is a great person to go with, to

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experience adventure and try new things.

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And she's always been a great

cheerleader and sort of,

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Spurring you on to keep going for

the goals you've set for yourself.

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So yeah I mean, I'm just so so lucky to

have the both of them and honestly Like

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it's really cool to be able to call you

guys my sisters And I think being your

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older sister is definitely one of the best

One of my proudest moments of life, so

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I'll stop being sad,

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you know

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Nicole: Archie,

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Christine: RT yes So

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Alexandra: To lighten up the mood a little

bit, Christine shared a very interesting

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story about a shoplifting experience

when she was very young that you guys

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lovely, nicely tattled on her for.

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Do you guys have any

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Nicole: seashell?

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Christine: it's a seashell

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Nicole: Did I rat on

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Christine: you did immediately We I should

I told you about it in the bathroom.

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I told the both of you I think

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Nicole: Yeah, you were

like, look at this seashell.

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And I was like, but we were

so young that I just didn't

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understand why you had a seashell.

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Christine: I know I don't even remember

how old I was so I can't in my brain place

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your ages But we were down visiting, to

give a little context, you were there.

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We were down visiting

mom's parents in Florida.

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Tori must have been like three, maybe?

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So then that would have made

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Torre: I have no memory.

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Christine: That would have made,

what, you, six or seven, Nicole,

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and me, I wasn't yet ten years old.

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I feel like I was still pretty young.

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Who knows?

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But, yes, I told this story

about me shoplifting a seashell,

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and all of that.

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But, from, I think Nicole's the only

one who can sort of tell the story.

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Share some recollection on

that story in particular.

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But as she said, she was like, I didn't

even know why you had a seashell.

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Nicole: yeah, I mean,

I'm sorry for ratting.

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I don't do that anymore.

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I don't think I realized

that I was ratting on

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Christine: No, I don't

think you did either.

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Nicole: Yeah,

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Christine: You're just

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silly

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Nicole: at this hey, look at the seashell.

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I'm like, what the fuck,

is that a seashell?

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Alexandra: Do either of you have any fun

memories or funny stories of your sibling

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interactions that you'd like to share?

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Nicole: Oh I mean, yeah,

there's definitely so many.

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I feel like there's so

many really, I don't know.

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Torre: I think you two being older, the

older siblings, definitely have more

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than me because I think it was more so

just Tori being psychotic ADHD Tori,

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and you guys were just like, oh my god.

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But I don't remember anything.

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I have a really bad memory.

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I don't really remember

anything before high school.

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Like I remember stuff, but like I don't

remember Day to day things like you guys

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do and when you tell me stuff, I'm like,

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oh, that's what I was

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like

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Nicole: remember what

it was like growing up?

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What?

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Torre: Yeah, but I don't remember

like specific moments like you tell me

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Nicole: Really?

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You have

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like, none?

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Torre: No, like not none

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Christine: But like what you mean

is like when we tell, when we recall

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something, you're sort of like, okay,

like it wasn't, that's not something

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that necessarily stuck with you.

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Is that what you mean?

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Torre: Yeah, mostly because

I was just existing and

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apparently it was entertaining.

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Nicole: Well, I would just

hang out there was two

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Christine: You would hang out a lot.

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I mean, I feel

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Nicole: Well yeah, mom

would always have to like.

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go get you from your room.

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You would just sit in there,

just like bowling in your crib

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until someone came and gotcha.

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In

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Torre: I really like Yeah

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Nicole: And I guess you still do that.

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Christine: the power to you.

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I, that was something I mentioned last

week was like both you Tori and Nicole,

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I feel like found saying not that I

didn't find my room as a sanctuary,

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but I feel like I wasn't, that wasn't

necessarily where I was going to hang out.

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I was either down in the living

room or down in the family

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room watching TV or something.

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So yeah, I think something

did pop into my head.

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Oh, the one thing that popped into my

head that I think involved all of us

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the basement was our like playroom.

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So that's where all of the toys were,

but it also was like a makeshift gym

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that Mom and dad never used, but it

had all of this janky gym equipment.

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And there was this old

bench, workout bench.

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And because we were kids like playing

make believe we would use that equipment

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as part of whatever we were playing.

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And there was a situation where

I was laying underneath the bench

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and Nicole was laying on top of it.

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Do you remember this?

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And because it was unstable it like fell

and a piece of the bench, the bolts, the

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head of a bolt on my forehead and I just

I was, I thought I cracked my skull.

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I thought I was deformed for life

because I just had an imprint.

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It's really funny.

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Anyway, that's just, I don't know

if you all remember that or not, but

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that's, that popped into my head.

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Nicole: remember it probably not as much

as you, because in my perspective it was

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like fuck, now we can't play anymore.

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And you're like, my head has

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Alexandra: Heh.

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Nicole: dent in my skull.

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Christine: Yeah.

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Nicole: And mom and dad were, they

got really upset, but out of love,

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because they were just like, oh,

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no.

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Christine: unsupervised and they played

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on unsafe equipment.

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Yeah, we're all just

trying to do our best here.

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But I also remember Tori being the very

creative, imaginative person she was.

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She always had her different toys that

she would totally like, make these.

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I remember being like, honestly, really,

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Blown away with how imaginative you were

are, I should say, but even as a kid,

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like with your, my little pony or your

Polly pocket or like the American girl

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doll, you just like, wherever you were

just created this whole world around you.

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And I was like, wow, that's really cool.

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And at a certain point in my head, I

was like now I'm older and that's for

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children, but like looking back on,

on it, I'm like why did I let that go?

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That's so cool.

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So I encourage people to like,

don't lose your inner child.

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It's really important.

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Torre: Now I just read books.

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I get the

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same effect.

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Christine: You and I both

there, but my friend.

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Alexandra: craving more of our company.

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Don't miss out on the excitement

So talking about shared and unique

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experiences, what are each of you,

if you want to share your favorite

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family traditions, and then if you feel

comfortable or have a memory that you

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do want to share, what was something

that you experienced that you absolutely

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loved that you experienced it entirely

on your own, separate from your siblings?

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Nicole: Wait, I'm confused.

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Alexandra: Okay.

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So let me start off first.

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Is there a family tradition That

you, each of you love from when you

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were growing up or even present day.

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What's your favorite thing to do

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Nicole: Um.

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I feel like what tradition I feel like

Christmas was, is you know, number one

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go to, especially cause it's that is, I

think, especially as we get older or one

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of the more constants, whereas like other

times of the year, like it's just changed

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because like we get older, don't really

do the whole Easter bunny thing, but

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you know, so it's, I think at Christmas

time has changed a bit, but I think.

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We would either, we would always do

Christmas Eve at either our house

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or our aunt's house and then go to

our grandparents for Christmas Day.

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Christine: Yeah.

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Chris is

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growing up with our

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Nicole: like such like a big like

warming holiday and not to say that it's

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not now, but it's it's just different.

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Like our

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Christine: grandparents.

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Nicole: families are older, our extended

family has other things going on.

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So it's definitely different.

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Christine: There's also

the nostalgia of it, right?

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Like

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you look back on that fondly.

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Yeah, totally.

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Torre: I definitely think

yes, Christmas is a big one.

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Specifics with that.

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We would always do the

night before Christmas.

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We used to read it with our grandfather.

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Since his passing, we've

continued to do that.

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And also I think that's just something

special to hold on to and continue that.

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And I hope we continue to do

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that for foreseeable future.

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But another piece that I've noticed.

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At least within the past four years,

as we've gotten older, and as our

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parents gotten older, instead of

them putting the presents underneath

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the tree while we're all asleep,

the three of us kind of do that

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now and then sit and chat, like at least

the past couple of Christmas we have

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done this, where we'd Just hang out for

a little bit before we're going to bed.

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There's the three of us.

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And I just remember many times

just like laughing and having like

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great conversation, being silly.

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with also the anticipation

of Christmas the next day.

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And I hope that we kind of continue

to that little tradition and

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moment in the future as well.

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So new ones,

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Alexandra: Okay.

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My second question was, is there a

memory or an experience that each

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of you had that you love so much?

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Because It was only you experiencing it.

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Neither of your sisters were there.

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And do you want to share them?

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I guess that's the other part of that

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Nicole: Like the experience

we just had with the Garpains.

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Christine: Sure.

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Alexandra: with your

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parents on your own, whatever

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Christine: It's a good one.

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Yeah,

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Nicole: guys.

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Alexandra: That you're like, this

is all my, this is my experience.

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No one else gets to share in it.

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Nicole: I feel like I've never Um, I'm

trying to think if I've ever I felt

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you know, if I have had an experience

that like no one else is sharing in,

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if it's like something that I would not

want someone to share, like my sisters

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to share in, if that makes sense.

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So I guess I've like never really thought

about oh, like this is like my moment.

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Torre: Yeah, I definitely think I've

every good experience that I've had, I've

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wanted to share that with my siblings,

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or Tell them about it at least.

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I guess it's a good thing.

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Christine: I would say so.

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I think to reflect if I'm reflecting

on both of you, like, when Nicole

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went to London, that was an experience

that she was having all on her own.

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took a really big step

going across an ocean.

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And just, I remember being very excited

for her, but also the beautiful thing

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was like, yes, she was doing that

on her own, but I got to, Be a part

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of it in a different way, like with

what she told us, and we also went

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there for Thanksgiving that year.

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And we had Thanksgiving over there with

her and she introduced us to our friends

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and she showed us around a whole new city.

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So, in that way, I think

it's kind of beautiful.

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If we do experience things

separately, we're able to then show.

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Each other that or tell each

other and it's like another way

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of experiencing it together still.

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Torre: Yeah.

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Christine: so

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Alexandra: Yeah.

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I may not have explained

that question very well.

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It was like, like Nicole going off

to London, that was something you did

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on your own and your sisters weren't

like physically there with you, but

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you shared it with them afterwards.

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Is there experiences like that?

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You're like, I'm glad I

took this step on my own.

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But that I can, you know,

enjoy and my sisters about.

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Nicole: I think like in every instance,

I am kind of grateful for being a

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middle child because it really did

force me into like kind of developing

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my own independence and kind of

taking those like jumps by myself.

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And so I think in general, I am grateful

for okay I'm glad I'm so happy I had the

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opportunity to like, be able to go and

go somewhere else, like outside of New

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Jersey for college kind of really find

myself or start to grow into myself.

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Yeah.

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And I think yeah, like going to

college, like I'm with anything.

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It's oh, I'm glad that I think maybe

not always glad that I'm doing it

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on my own, but I think it's good

that I'm doing things on my own.

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You know what I mean?

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I don't know.

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I guess I've never really thought about it

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Christine: I guess I

haven't really either.

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It's that's why I was like, wow,

that's a, that's an interesting

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question just because it's such it's a

perspective I wouldn't necessarily have.

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But before we move on really quick,

I do wanna mention some traditions

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or activities that I think about

'cause they both shared theirs.

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Christmas is definitely a big

one as they both mentioned.

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Another fun tradition that we've done

since we were kids is reindeer dust.

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I don't know, Alex, if you're

familiar with reindeer dust, but

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it's a a fun tradition that I

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Alexandra: I don't

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Christine: we probably, I think it was

maybe at my priest, like the preschool,

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Nicole and I both went to basically

reindeer dust is a way for Santa to

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be able to find your house and it's a

mixture of, at least in our house, is

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:

a mixture of Oats for the reindeer,

and glitter so that Santa can see

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the glitter reflecting off the moon,

moonlight so he can find your home.

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So we would make reindeer

dust every Christmas Eve but

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a non Christmas related one.

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I've always loved In the summer months, in

the fall, when it's still warm enough for

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us to be outside, I've always loved doing

like the fire pit outside and smoking or

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roasting marshmallows and making s'mores.

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That's always that's

something we still do.

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And I look back on the memories

when we were kids and just,

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we always had the best time.

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We laughed a lot.

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We told silly stories.

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We talked about different

things happening in our lives.

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We shared that with friends.

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We shared that with family

and I just always love it.

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So,

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Alexandra: cool.

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I have not heard of

reindeer, not reindeer.

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I've not heard of reindeer dust,

but I have heard of reindeer crunch,

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Christine: Oh, I don't know what that is.

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Alexandra: So I think it's like a

mixture that you would put out for the

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reindeers On.

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And it wasn't like carrots.

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I think it was like check mix

or something and like sweets

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and marshmallows all melted in.

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Um,

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Christine: That sounds tasty.

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Like a tasty treat.

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Alexandra: a tradition for your

guys's next Christmas for the humans

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though, this time, not the reindeer.

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All right.

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So kind of moving on to the next part

about lessons that you've learned

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from each other, because I know Tori

mentioned earlier that sometimes older

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sisters are full of advice that you

sometimes don't want to hear it because

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you want to do things on your own.

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What.

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It is the most important lesson

that your sisters have taught you,

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everyone, whoever wants to jump in.

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Christine: I can start us off.

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Cause I, I mentioned a couple

of things in the last episode.

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The first thing I think

is conflict resolution.

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We, as kids would get at each other, but

I feel like You know, I have built in

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practice dummies for a lot of things and

conflict resolution is one that, you know,

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sticks with you through your whole life.

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So I feel like that was a really

important lesson I learned.

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I also think I took

that on more seriously.

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I don't know as being the oldest, because.

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In my head, I thought, Oh, I'm the oldest.

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Maybe I should, I don't know.

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Help resolve any issues

that may have arisen.

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But I don't know.

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What do you guys think?

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Torre: Considering I don't know how to do

life and you guys did it before me or are

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just slightly more advanced in living.

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I kind of went to both of you for

everything and advice with everything

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from like, how do I get a job?

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To like, how do I make something or like

a recipe or how to deal when you're, what

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do you do when your flight gets canceled?

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I would probably say, I don't know.

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Cool.

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If you want to go, I'm trying

to think of the biggest piece of

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advice that it would be for me.

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This is just so much

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Nicole: mean I've definitely learned

a lot from both of you for sure.

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And sometimes it's not not always

just like necessarily advice.

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Sometimes it's oh fuck, don't do that.

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You'll get in trouble.

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Christine: Oh

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Torre: abort mission.

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Nicole: yeah.

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oh, one time Tori said to me when

I was just like super down, she

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was like, girl, you are a queen.

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Do not let your crown fall.

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And I really wrote it down.

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I was like, wow,

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Christine: Preached her

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Nicole: wise old Toad.

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Christine: wise.

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Indeed.

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I will

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say.

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Nicole: think

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Torre: I'll hype you up.

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Nicole: you got some

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Beyond your years.

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Christine: 100 percent

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Nicole: With certainty.

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Christine: Yeah, but I would say Tori's

always had a wisdom about her even when

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she was little like I remember When

grandpa passed away mom's dad and you

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asked to have grandpa's glasses because

you wanted to see life through his eyes

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:

I was like Tori like I 10 years old yet

But like holy shit, what a profound thing

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for a young but I think honestly You That

just goes to show don't discount children

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because they're honestly some of the

most like The wisdom they possess is real

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because they're not clouded by everything

else that the world puts on you.

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Yeah, exactly.

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Society.

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I think one other thing, one other

lesson I learned being your sister is

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how to be a listen, like a good listener.

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Like sometimes they're not looking

for me to solve their problem.

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They're just looking for me to listen

and support them and encourage them.

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So.

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That's one of the biggest lessons I've

taken away from being a sibling is

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like sometimes just shut up and listen

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and be there for them.

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Alexandra: Is there any piece of advice

that any sibling gave to any other

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sibling that you would like One didn't

want to hear or didn't think was useful.

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And then conversely, any advice that

you wish one of your sisters had told

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you before you experienced something,

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Torre: Oh, they told me shit all

the time that I didn't want to hear.

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Alexandra: any specific piece

of, you know, any specific shit

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that you didn't want to hear.

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All

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Torre: Probably don't do something.

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I don't know, like specifics

because even if it's something that

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like, I didn't want to hear them.

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Probably got over it because

I probably needed to hear it.

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Christine: Yeah

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I will.

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I will say, sorry to jump into her, but

I don't know if I've ever been given

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like if you've ever shared something

with me, the both of you, like in the

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moment, I probably felt like I didn't

want to hear it, but I, Wouldn't say

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there you've never said anything like

I didn't think was valuable like in the

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moment I probably didn't want I didn't

want to accept it but looking back on it.

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I was like, yeah, they were right

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Torre: Yeah.

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Christine: you know these are the two

people who have known me the longest and

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Know me probably better than anybody.

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And I, them, so like whatever they do,

what the reason for why they're saying

767

:

something, there's a reason for it.

768

:

I might not want to see

it or accept it, but yeah.

769

:

So

770

:

I think maybe specifically, like I

remember Nicole said something to me.

771

:

This was back during COVID,

like after COVID was ending out,

772

:

it was just me here at home.

773

:

And she was one of the first people to

really be a proponent of me taking that

774

:

step of moving out and living on my own.

775

:

She's Christine, it's time.

776

:

You know, you were there for

our parents through COVID.

777

:

You were there for Tori when she was

going through senior year of high school.

778

:

Like it's time to take care of you.

779

:

And cause moving out had been

something I've always wanted to do.

780

:

But it was very daunting.

781

:

It was very overwhelming, but Nicole

was like the first person to say

782

:

you're ready, Christine, go for it.

783

:

So.

784

:

Nicole: Yeah,

785

:

absolutely.

786

:

I definitely think that, I mean, there's

definitely been things that I've been

787

:

told that I'm like, I think especially

growing up so close in age to Christine,

788

:

sometimes I did kind of just feel oh

I'm like just her little sister and I

789

:

think I was a little bit more resistant

to any sort of like when she would

790

:

try to give me like advice especially

when we were like younger and like

791

:

middle school high school because I

was like like I am my own person blah

792

:

Um,

793

:

Christine: I also feel though,

like high school was sort of the

794

:

start where things shifted for us.

795

:

Do you agree?

796

:

Nicole: Yeah.

797

:

Christine: I, I remember like when we were

little, we would go at it just because

798

:

I think we were so close in age and

799

:

we're both stubborn.

800

:

But when we were in high school, I feel

like that was the first time where.

801

:

I just remember really enjoying,

cause my senior year, I drove us to

802

:

school every morning and that was like

our time, you and me, and we related

803

:

to each other on a whole different.

804

:

level than I think we

had up until that point.

805

:

And then Tori, like the shift for

me and in my mind came when I came

806

:

back home after college and you were

a senior in high school and like

807

:

getting ready to go off to college.

808

:

And it was just a cool time because

it was just you and I at home.

809

:

And, Being there to support you through

applying for college and like when you

810

:

got your acceptance letters And it just

was like a really special time for just us

811

:

So it was really kind of cool to be able

to have that year Me and Nicole my senior

812

:

year and me and you your senior year

813

:

kind Cool.

814

:

Torre: Yeah.

815

:

A hundred percent.

816

:

Christine: Would you say our

Relationships have stayed the

817

:

same or changed over the years.

818

:

I feel like I kind of

answered that question

819

:

Nicole: Yeah, I feel like I was such an

asshole in this scene when I was younger.

820

:

I mean like we would

like fucking go at it.

821

:

And like now I think we all kind of,

we'll have like our disagreements, or like

822

:

we'll piss each other off, but we're like,

823

:

Christine: We have a tight bond

though, like we have a bond of we have

824

:

a, like an unspoken pact, like it's

the three of us against the world.

825

:

I feel like what's shared

with us stays with us.

826

:

And I feel like when we were younger,

Cole, I think we just weren't

827

:

able to relate to each other yet.

828

:

Like we were so, I think we just

sort of were missing where the

829

:

other person was coming from mostly

because we were so young, maybe?

830

:

I don't know.

831

:

Yeah.

832

:

Nicole: You know?

833

:

Alexandra: to listeners who have

siblings to maintain strong bonds and

834

:

relationships with them as people grow

older and potentially spread across

835

:

the country or stay in the same place?

836

:

How do you deal with the

change in everyone's lives?

837

:

Torre: Celebrate their wins like it's

your own, not like it's your own, take

838

:

the spotlight away from them, but be

like just so excited and animated when

839

:

like you see them doing like their thing

and like killing it out live because I

840

:

feel like when you're young, You're like

almost in competition with your siblings.

841

:

You're like, I want that toy.

842

:

I want to be the best.

843

:

I want to get the best grades or

whatever, like simple face out a lot.

844

:

Compare yourself.

845

:

And then I think when you get older

and you're all kind of like in the

846

:

trenches, figuring out how to be

an adult in the world, you bond

847

:

and get really close because you're

like, listen, I've been there.

848

:

I'm going through it.

849

:

But then also like

continuing that to like.

850

:

Don't allow like different things or

like life changes to take you away

851

:

from like the bond that you do develop.

852

:

And celebrate those wins as they come,

because you, I want my siblings to always

853

:

feel that I am in their corner, cheering

them on, even from a time zone away.

854

:

and if I ever lost that, I

would definitely be really sad.

855

:

Not saying that I think I will, or

like anything like that, but that I

856

:

think is like a really big part of like

our relationship and our closeness.

857

:

And it means a lot to me.

858

:

Nicole: Same.

859

:

We love each other, which is awesome.

860

:

And I think it's super cool that

861

:

We have such a great sibling

relationship because I feel like

862

:

that's not always like super common.

863

:

Both our parents like don't have

they, they like don't get along with

864

:

their siblings a hundred percent.

865

:

And it's just not whereas

I could not imagine like

866

:

not being super close with them.

867

:

Christine: I would say like advice

wise try and I agree with what both of

868

:

them have said, Tori, especially like

celebrating each other's wins and as

869

:

you grow up and are adults and you start

your own journey and life, like making

870

:

sure you are there to support the other,

but also like when one of the biggest

871

:

things I sort of reflect on is, you

know, putting myself in their shoes.

872

:

So if they're going through something

and, you know, they want to want some

873

:

advice or a different perspective or you

know, there's a disagreement happening

874

:

and I'm trying to understand them better.

875

:

I think like having that

background of knowing each other.

876

:

Our whole lives has allowed me like

when I can not be emotionally invested

877

:

to sort of separate myself and sort of

put myself in their shoes, see where

878

:

they're coming from and just listen.

879

:

And I think the best way to sort

of maintain strong relationships is

880

:

It's not that we're constantly

in communication with each other.

881

:

Like we.

882

:

We aren't always, you know, talking

on the phone, but I know that if

883

:

I really needed them, like I could

pick up the phone and call them and

884

:

they would be there because of that

sort of trust and that Relationship

885

:

that's just been built over time.

886

:

So if you're looking for a deeper

relationship with a sibling, I think

887

:

like having the conversation is the best

place to start and trying to understand

888

:

where the other person's coming from.

889

:

Because without that understanding,

I think like you're not going to sort

890

:

of be able to relate to each other.

891

:

I don't know.

892

:

I'm kind of rambling here,

but does that make sense?

893

:

Am I offering

894

:

Alexandra: No, it does.

895

:

Christine: good advice there?

896

:

Torre: I also had one too.

897

:

That's very specific to when you live in

different states and are very far away.

898

:

Um, If that ever does happen to pertain

to you when you're listening is if you

899

:

can try to At least plan or coordinate

the next time you'll see each other When

900

:

you are with them before you say bye

and go back to your respective house or

901

:

wherever because I feel as people grow

old get older and like life happens.

902

:

They're really busy and they don't Stop

to prioritize and set aside time to make

903

:

the effort to go visit so with Nicole.

904

:

Or do teen, like every time that I

come home to New Jersey, I want to

905

:

see you figure out when I'm still

in New Jersey, when the next time

906

:

I'm going to see you is whether it's

before Thanksgiving, which is the next

907

:

bigger big holiday, or if it's going

to be that and different things there.

908

:

That way you know, when you're

going to see them again and you

909

:

have something to look forward to,

I think that's always positive.

910

:

Um, and you will really kind of avoid.

911

:

Life sweeping you up and

things and then going a year

912

:

without seeing them, you know But I

don't think I think it's hard to do that.

913

:

I think it's important to Prioritize and

make the effort to schedule those things

914

:

Alexandra: And it seems also

really applicable to long

915

:

distance friendships, too.

916

:

So that's great advice.

917

:

Torre: Our relationships

918

:

Christine: 100%.

919

:

I'm definitely one of the things

that I've Very willingly taken

920

:

on is I'll travel to you guys.

921

:

Like you guys are in the other cities.

922

:

Like you don't have to

constantly be coming home.

923

:

I want to come and experience your life

in the city that you are building your

924

:

life in one, because I get to spend time

with you, but I also get to see your

925

:

world and experience a part of your life.

926

:

I don't.

927

:

Get to like coming home, coming back to

New Jersey is coming home for your both.

928

:

And I think what's beautiful,

exciting is the fact that I get to

929

:

come to you guys and same with Alex.

930

:

I mean, she's she left New Jersey and

we have a long distance friendship,

931

:

but you know, I come down and visit

her and she comes down and visit

932

:

me and It's just, you know, I think

that's really great advice, Tori.

933

:

While you're together making

plans for the next time you can be

934

:

together and making that a priority,

ultimately our relationship,

935

:

Torre: if it's not

936

:

Christine: Are our priorities,

937

:

Torre: like book the

flight or anything like

938

:

Christine: but mark it in the calendar.

939

:

Yeah,

940

:

Torre: Let's do like this

weekend in October or something

941

:

like that type of deal.

942

:

Christine: exactly.

943

:

I'll

944

:

Alexandra: Okay.

945

:

So that was kind of the end of the

regularly scheduled questions there.

946

:

Do we want to open up the floor for

anyone to say anything or have anything

947

:

else to add to this lovely conversation

948

:

Christine: just say.

949

:

First, thank you guys so

much for coming back on.

950

:

I know you both are very busy.

951

:

Koli, this is one of your

biggest times of the year.

952

:

Thank you so much for taking the time.

953

:

I really appreciate it.

954

:

And it's just been fun.

955

:

I don't know if we would have otherwise

had this opportunity to sort of

956

:

talk candidly about these things.

957

:

So it's been a really cool,

like one of the many things I'm

958

:

grateful about starting this year.

959

:

with you, Alex is having these

conversations and having two

960

:

of my favorite people join us.

961

:

So thank you guys so much for coming.

962

:

I really appreciate it.

963

:

Love you both.

964

:

Torre: I love you, teen.

965

:

Thank you for having us on.

966

:

Nicole: you for

967

:

Christine: I hope you guys had fun.

968

:

And maybe this is something

we will revisit in the future.

969

:

I don't know.

970

:

Who knows?

971

:

If you guys are open to

972

:

it.

973

:

Nicole: Yeah, catch me

outside the tax deadline zone.

974

:

Alright,

975

:

Christine: Definitely will, Cole.

976

:

Definitely will.

977

:

100%.

978

:

Alexandra: or for other

conversations that aren't sibling

979

:

related, maybe books or movies or

something, activities and adventures.

980

:

Torre: I'll talk about

a book day of the week.

981

:

Christine: here, Here.

982

:

Awesome.

983

:

Okay, cool.

984

:

That brings us to the

end of today's episode.

985

:

We hope you enjoyed this special

journey through the world of Sibling

986

:

Dynamics, filled with lots of laughter,

memories, and heartfelt moments.

987

:

A big thank you to Both of

my sisters for joining us and

988

:

sharing their unique perspectives.

989

:

It's been a treat to

hear all those stories.

990

:

Whether you're reflecting on your own

siblings relationships or gaining new

991

:

insights into family dynamics, we hope you

found something that resonates with you.

992

:

As always, we'd love to hear your

thoughts, so don't hesitate to

993

:

share your favorite moments or

your own sibling stories with us.

994

:

And if you're an only child,

we'd love to know how you feel

995

:

about these sibling dynamics.

996

:

The conversation doesn't end here.

997

:

Keep it going with us on social

media or in the comments below.

998

:

Before we go, we do have

a quick announcement.

999

:

We're going on a brief

break, but don't worry.

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We're going to come back on October 3rd

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So get ready for a thrilling new

chapter filled with mysterious, eerie,

:

00:52:02,964 --> 00:52:05,214

and maybe some spine chilling topics.

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00:52:05,429 --> 00:52:05,649

Who knows?

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00:52:06,609 --> 00:52:08,819

We can't wait to dive

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