Episode 7

Forget Balance!

Episode 7: Unmasking the Illusion of Balance

Welcome to The Mirror Project!

Welcome back to The Mirror Project! It's Christine and Alexandra, your guides through life's twists and turns. Today, we're peeling back the layers on the ever-elusive concept of work-life balance. Does it stress you out, too? Because honestly, we're feeling the overwhelm 

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Why Not Balance?

Our journey into this topic began with a revelation from Zach Pogrob (@zachpogrob). He suggests we ditch the pursuit of balance and embrace contrast. Poetry and jiu-jitsu, mansions and marathons - living on the edge. Are we prisoners of the idea that we can have it all? The pressure is real, especially for women. So, do we want it all, or is there beauty in embracing extremes?

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Something Better than Balance?

Is the pendulum swinging from balance to extreme contrast? Can we find a middle ground that still delivers the same results? Others may lean towards the extremes, but Alexandra thinks there a sweet spot in oscillating between boundaries closer to the middle.

Incorporating Contrast

How does Alexandra plan to integrate her love for extremes without burning out? Saying yes to opportunities without drowning in overwhelm. And what about Christine? Well, she's got a plan, too.

Closing Thoughts

We've navigated the seesaw of balance and contrast. Now, it's your turn. Is balance attainable, or should we be seeking contrast? Head over to our socials @mirrorprojectpod and share your thoughts. Next week, we're digging into the surprising history of St. Patrick's Day. Trust us; it's more than just green beer. If you've enjoyed the ride today, consider supporting us on Buy us a Coffee. And, of course, hit that like, subscribe, or follow button on your favorite platform. Until next time, keep reflecting, and we'll catch you on the flip side!

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Transcript
Christine:

Hello and welcome to The Mirror Project.

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We are your hosts, Christine.

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Alexandra: And Alexandra,

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Christine: And we are so

glad you're joining us.

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This week, we are lightening up the

conversation and want to welcome

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back anyone who needed to sit

out the last two episodes where

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we talked about our thoughts and

experiences on body image and health.

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Today, we are discussing the elusive

balance between work and life.

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Is it just me, or do you all find the idea

of finding balance extremely overwhelming?

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Sometimes I find it stressful as

hell, especially when I feel like

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everything is out of control.

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And I often wonder if the idea of

balance does me more hard than good.

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Is achieving balance even possible?

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Let's discuss.

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Alexandra: Before we dive in today's

topic, like, subscribe, or follow us

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on your preferred listening platform.

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Go ahead, pause, and do

it now before you forget.

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Don't worry, we won't

get started without you.

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Christine: Right.

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So let's dive into our first topic where

we ask the question, why not balance?

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The idea that started this conversation

came to us from a post by Zach Pogrob and

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Alexandra actually shared this with me.

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The post said, You don't need

balance, you need contrast.

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Write poetry, train jiu jitsu,

join a cult, then create one.

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Live in New York, then

the middle of nowhere.

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Bentleys and dirt bikes,

mansions and marathons.

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Spend time at the edges.

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Flood your senses.

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Treat every day like an experiment,

and never live the same day twice.

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You need a healthy dose of art and war.

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Create violently, live peacefully.

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Because a life without

extremes is a life unlived.

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Alexandra: That's got some heavy

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Christine: Oh my gosh, it really just

makes you stop and think, doesn't it?

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do you have any initial first

thoughts after hearing that?

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Alexandra: it still hits me as hard.

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I think is when I first shared it with

you, which I know is a way a while back.

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Christine: Early on when we first

started talking about topics.

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I think this was like last, a year ago.

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We shared this with each other.

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Alexandra: yeah.

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So for anyone listening, I think if you

looked at our Instagram, you know, chat,

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it would just be videos back and forth.

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Oh, Hey, this would be a great topic.

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Oh, look at this.

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This is a really

interesting thing this week.

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We should talk about this.

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So this was definitely something

that hit a spot for me, right?

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Because I feel so.

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stuck on extremes sometimes.

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Like, I'm a very creative person,

but I'm also very logical.

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And it feels like the world

doesn't always accept that.

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So it was interesting to hear somebody be

like, no, the extremes are what you want.

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Being in one will help you

appreciate the other and vice versa.

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And it helps you not live the

same day over and over again.

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So I think, I think one of my

favorite parts was write poetry, train

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jujitsu, join a cult, then create one.

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I was like, hmm, I like that.

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So if anyone here is the cult

of Alexandera coming around,

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we know where the idea started.

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Christine: Oh boy.

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Alexandra: I, hold no responsibility

for what happens after that.

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Because I was just

living, why not balance?

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We need contrast.

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Christine: There you go.

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Exactly.

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I think also something that came to

mind as I was thinking through the

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outline of this episode yesterday was

that us as women, we're constantly

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told that we can have it all.

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And it, really drives me crazy

because I don't know if that's even

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worth, I don't think it's worth it.

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I don't think women want to have it all.

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And I, I also think it's, can

be very condescending too.

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It's, it's not something that I think men

are faced with, but in this age of women

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empowerment and women being encouraged to

embrace every facet of life and not feel

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discriminated against or marginalized or

anything like that, it's not, it's also

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like doing more harm than good and I.

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Thank you.

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Bye.

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Alexandra: hmm,

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Christine: And as I mentioned when

I opened up the episode, I really do

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wonder if balance is, if the idea of

balance is doing more harm than good,

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because I don't know if it's attainable.

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There's going to be times in our lives

where we will be able to achieve some

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sort of balance between work and life,

but the beauty of life is that one minute

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it can be calm, and the next it can be a

storm that is just decimating the careful

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plan that you set out for yourself.

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So, I like this idea because life

is imperfect, embracing that and

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just going for different extremes.

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Within reason.

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I think, let's, let's preface that too.

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Alexandra: Yeah, I

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also think because you were saying

about balance can be more harmful and

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if we think about it, I think balance

seems ideal in the abstract, right?

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Because when your life is so out

of balance, there's so much that's

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pulling you in different directions.

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Whether it be women being told they

can have it all, which I agree with

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you is kind of insulting, right?

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So I'm going to put a pin in

that, we'll come back to it.

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If you think about sustaining balance for

a long time, if that hasn't been your M.

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for holding that balance will probably be

very uncomfortable and get kind of boring.

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Because, I mean, if you think of

balance as stillness, which we all need

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moments of stillness, that's why I love

practices of like meditation or yoga.

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Because it's kind of also a

form of mental acrobatics.

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Being comfortable with being

calm and still but an entire life

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that is everything very balanced.

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Everything's the same day to day.

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I Agree with you.

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I don't know that that's what we should

necessarily be striving for but I can

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understand people's like Oh, we need

balance because life is so out of balance

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so finding the boundaries of your

extremes and using that as your range

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of extremes that you want to embrace

and use to its fullest ability within

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your life to create this fuller, more

experienced, then yeah, I think that's

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a very interesting concept brought up.

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I agree with you.

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I think balance is, it's almost

like a fallacy in many ways.

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Christine: especially the idea of balance

that we're constantly pushed today on

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social media, in our society, because

here in America, everything about how

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we function, at least, you know, where

in the area I grew up, which is Like

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near the, in the tri state area near New

York City, it's just go, go, go, go, go.

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So it's really just a contradiction

that you're being pushed this idea

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of finding balance, but it's just

something that you're constantly

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chasing in this fast paced society.

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Alexandra: Um,

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Christine: So that's why I asked,

like, is it even attainable?

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At least, at least the idea of

balance that we are constantly pushed.

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Alexandra: well, no, that's a

great point because in planning for

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this episode, you'd also brought

up the idea of that being a human

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is overwhelming in of itself.

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And so, and particularly today, as

compared to even 60, 70 years ago,

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there's so much information, knowledge.

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ability to do stuff

right at our fingertips.

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I mean, we carry a tiny computer in our

hands, most of us with a smartphone.

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And so everything is competing for

our time, our attention, our money,

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whether it's social media, whether

it's this podcast, whether it's,

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I want to go out and eat healthy,

or I need to go out and run, but I

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also have ten other things to do.

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So I do think that we are pushed

this unrealistic expectation of what

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finding balance is on top of, hey,

here's everything that needs your time.

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So it is quite interesting the

information and messages that

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we are consuming and being fed.

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Christine: right.

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And it's disillusioning because

we have all these choices and

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we're told that we could have.

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We could do all of them

if we find balance.

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When I think in reality, it's, you have

to eliminate, you have to figure out what

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to eliminate, and then take what you have

left and find the balance within that.

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Alexandra: Mm

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I would say as somebody

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who

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If you've ever heard the phrase a jack

of all trades is a master of none and

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the fuller phrase of that is a jack

of all trades is a master of none but

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it's still better than a master of one.

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So for I have considered myself a

jack of all trades, I have interest

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in many different areas, right?

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Like from metaphysics and many

different areas of metaphysics to

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Logical analytical business stuff.

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And so that extreme has made me

feel very much and interest a

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little bit in like quantum physics.

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Not that I want to study it, but

I'm like, Oh, tell me about it.

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And so having all those things out

there that you want to, it does

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feel like if I could only just

narrow in on one or two things, then

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then maybe life would make sense.

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Then maybe I would feel like I fit in

so I can see where I have fallen into

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that illusion and trap of That balance

we talked about that is unrealistic.

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It's just, goodness gracious, I can't do

it all, but I want to do it all, and so

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I think writing that is also Sometimes

contributing to the, the overwhelm of,

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oh, but I also need to find balance.

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I need to, my life

needs to look like this.

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It has to look like the aesthetic

thing we see on social media.

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And cause sometimes I wonder, like, how

do people have all the time in the day?

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And if you're cool with it,

I'd love to come back to that.

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We had talked about women

being told we can have it

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all.

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And it's nothing I have

ever heard said to a man.

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Not to, that's a broad

sweeping generalization.

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So if somebody has heard that.

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Interesting, I'd love to hear about it.

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But, you know, we can go and have a

career in the life, and then we can also

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come home and raise children, and be

the perfect mother, and be the person

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that makes everything from scratch.

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Who sleeps during that?

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That's my genuine question.

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When do you, when do you actually rest?

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And, you know, I've never heard that.

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The permanent sleep.

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Christine: It's pretty permanent.

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Alexandra: don't know that I've

ever Heard it said to a man

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or seen that on social media.

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And it's so interesting, right?

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Because why does it fall primarily

on the females if they want to have

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a career to also be the perfect

parental caregiver, you know?

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It's not really a conversation that

I've heard about in a very specific

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part of the internet, you know,

about alpha males and masculinity

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and all that many made up nonsense.

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It's all about work and what they

can provide, but I've never heard

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be an amazing, like, husband or

parent to your kids, being there.

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So why does that fall?

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It's, we're being told we can have it

all, but that's not in balance either.

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Christine: Yeah, it, it's really, it

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honestly

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Alexandra: And it's almost more

insulting when other women tell me, Oh,

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Christine: no, you're right, it

isn't, it is insulting when that's

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the dialogue that we have amongst

each other and I was just going to say

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that it honestly just makes me really

tired to think about but yeah, I,

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Alexandra: Sorry, folks, we're going to

have to take a five minute break just to

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go have a nap to recoup from how tired

we are talking about this conversation.

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Christine: and I'd be interested to

hear how other women might relate

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to this, but for me it's like, I

sometimes can't allow myself to feel

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tired because then I'm not going to

be able to get anything else done.

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Like if I just keep going, then I will

get to the other side of this problem or

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Alexandra: And that brings

up an interesting point.

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I'd love to also hear

from our male listeners.

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What is this like if you are working

full time and a primary caregiver to

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a child or very actively involved?

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What does that look like for you?

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Christine: Yeah.

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Alexandra: ever hear, Oh.

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That's just normal.

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Or so I'm curious to know

the other side of that as

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Christine: Yeah, I would want to know,

like, are you, do you feel supported?

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Do you feel

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are you made to feel, questioned

for the, the reasons why you

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are trying to also do it all?

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And, I'd really be interested to

know how you're feeling in, in that

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situation that you find yourself in and

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Alexandra: What brings that up is

because I remember from in grade school,

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I think there was one student whose

dad was a full time stay at home dad.

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And it was very, it was different, right?

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If you heard of a parent staying

home, it typically wasn't.

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The man so I had remember some people

had made fun of that and I'm like, oh,

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that's really interesting, you know, so

It's questioning life choices and how

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somebody else drives for Their form of

balance that falls outside of the norm.

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So, this is so interesting.

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I feel like we've gone quite off of,

like, contrast to, Hey, here's this

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really interesting conversation as well.

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But it fits perfectly and dovetails

nicely into this conversation because

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It really is sometimes a struggle when

you wake up to go, I have this long to

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do list of things that must get done.

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And then there's the to do lists

of things I want to do to take care

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of myself, to better my life, et

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cetera.

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I don't know about you, Christine,

but sometimes I feel like they're

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constantly at odds with each other.

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And it's hard to embrace those

contrasts and ride the creative flows

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that might come off of them too.

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to the next one.

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Christine: Yeah.

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No, I, I definitely agree.

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And When I look at this

quote That we shared.

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I, a part that I really gravitate

towards and really connect with is

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You need a healthy dose of art in war.

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Create violently and live peacefully.

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And I think that's so beautifully

put, cause if you're gonna have, if

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you're gonna live a life of extremes

That's really the way to do it.

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Is just creating violently

and living peacefully.

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That in itself is balance.

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Alexandra: Hmm.

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Yes.

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and I love how it's balance of

not necessarily finding the thing

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that keeps you stable either.

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It's using the contrasts within each

other to find, find that balance.

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It makes me very much think of

the, the yin and yang symbol.

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So I love that.

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And this feels like a perfect

segue into our next topic, where

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we're going to talk about, is there

something better than balance?

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So we, we have definitely talked about

the contrast and the extremes of the

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quote that you had shared with us earlier.

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So are extremes the new goal, or is

there a more measured approach that

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still achieves the same outcome?

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What are your thoughts, Christine?

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Christine: I think, and this just

came to me as we were wrapping up the

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last topic and adding into this one.

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I think we need to shift our idea

of what balance means, and it's not

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balance over an extended period of time.

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It's finding balance

within the day you're in.

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So it's like.

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Each day is going to be, each day is

going to be different and accepting

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that and knowing that there's things

outside of your control, but that

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you can make choices to find balance

within your day and it might look

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different from one day to the next.

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And this might not work for

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everybody.

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Alexandra: And that's true.

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Because that allows for the

flexibility of things to arise and

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meeting your needs in different ways.

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So I, I like that view of that and because

if you do take that a larger, broader

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view out, you could look at a period of

a month or a year and say, wow, there

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were lots of ups, but there was just

enough recovery time and you could see

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how the balance sheet of your year has

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Christine: yeah,

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Alexandra: evened out.

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I like

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that.

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Christine: Because I think it's

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Alexandra: Without it being so rigid

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Christine: Right.

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And I think it's also for a

lot of people overwhelming to

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look at the bigger picture.

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and one of the things I say to Alexandra

all the time is something that my parents,

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my dad would say to me when we were a kid.

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When we got overwhelmed with

everything that we'd have to

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do for school or everything.

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It's how do you eat an

elephant one bite at a time?

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And no, I don't mean like you're actually

eating an elephant, but consider like

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whatever you're facing to be the elephant

and elephants are massive and they

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take up a lot of space and they're very

intimidating to look at, but taking it one

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bite at a time, one step at a time, you'll

look back on it and you'll focus in the

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moment on that one bite you're taking, but

you'll look back on it and you'll see the

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elephant that you made your way through

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Alexandra: And yes, if anyone

is wondering, did Christine

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have to tell me that this week?

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She did!

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Very much so.

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I think I was spinning up about,

you know, my term and coursework and

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everything, and I'm just like, oh

my gosh, I can't, I'm so stressed!

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And she's like, okay, how

do we eat an elephant?

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Just one bite at a time?

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And like, in the moment, I was like, that

is really irritating, it's not helpful.

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And like, oh.

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I mean, yeah, okay.

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Just

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Christine: Mm-Hmm.

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Alexandra: on the next step.

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Focus on the next bite.

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And you know, we can do it.

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And it does help because as you said,

sometimes it, we do need that bird's

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eye view to kind of understand,

but it can be quite overwhelming

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because you're like, this is where

I need to go, but I am not there.

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And how do I get there?

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And you can kind of I say you,

but maybe I should say me.

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I can spin up about the

process to get there.

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And that, as annoying as it was

when you said it, because it was

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one of those things like, I know,

but it's not helpful in this moment.

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Well, it's, and then it was

like, I was spinning up about it.

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I was like, okay, nope.

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That's right.

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Come back.

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Focus on this one thing, and then it

kind of like took some of that stress

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and anxiety and the overwhelm of trying

to achieve larger goals down to this

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moment, and I can do that for a little

bit until I get to a point where I'm not

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so overwhelmed and I can come out for a

bird's eye view and then come back in.

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So yeah, it is, it is very difficult.

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Christine: And I think it's a lot of

people find themselves constantly stuck

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in that bird's eye view or they're looking

at their to-do list that's 20 pages long.

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And they're going down it

over and over and over again.

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And one of the things, one of the valuable

lessons I've learned, especially in the

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last few years is prioritizing and knowing

that, you know, you're not going to be

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able to go one by one down the list.

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So picking out,

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Alexandra: group and priorities.

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Christine: out what needs

your attention first.

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What you, and this goes hand in hand

with like your two to do list that

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I kind of consider that you have.

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It's the to do list you have to do,

and the to do list you want to do.

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And finding the balance of both.

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And it,

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Alexandra: Mhm.

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Christine: so I, it's going to be

interesting to kind of see where

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we come at the end of this episode

on this topic of balance, because

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we're talking about contrast, but

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I think that just kind of makes it fun.

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so we'll see, we'll see

where we go from here.

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Alexandra: So staying on

the idea of contrast, right?

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And contrast to an extreme.

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do both live in the U.

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S., we definitely live in a

culture where people embrace

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the extremes of the extremes.

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That is my feeling of what

I've seen from political to

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cultural, social, all the things.

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So, you know, and it's when one, when

the pendulum is over on A extreme, it

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doesn't kind of swing towards the middle.

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It shifts all the way over

to B extreme, like past that.

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where you can still achieve contrast,

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but have It kind of oscillate closer to

the middle, central of the two extremes.

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You get some of that flavor and

flair without it being too excess.

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Your thoughts?

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Is that possible?

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Or is that just my preference?

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Christine: I think what you're

talking about is definitely finding

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the sweet spot between the two.

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I think for As a Sagittarius tend

to want to embrace my wanderlust, go

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without a plan, just see where the

wind will take me, things that come up.

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I instinctually want to just be

like, okay, let's, let's go for it.

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But then everything else in my DNA,

how I was raised, the schools I

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went to, my anxiety, all of that.

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tend to make me want

to have a set plan, so

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Alexandra: Yeah.

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Christine: and want to find that sort of,

that pendulum swing that doesn't swing

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too far to the right or to the left.

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Alexandra: That makes me think of

one of the trips that we've taken

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together in the past few years.

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We had gone down to New Orleans

and as Christine said you know, she

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likes the wanderlust, but also the

anxiety of a plan can sometimes get,

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be helpful and then get in a way.

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And I'm definitely somebody who, when

I travel, I want to see it all and I

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want plans and I need to know not that

I don't like to get lost sometimes.

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But particularly in a new place, I'm

like, I need to see it all right away.

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So I think we had a really great

strategy when we went down and

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it kind of encompassed this,

the flow between the two, right?

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We had a few set things were like, we

have this tour, this day, this tour the

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day before, and we're going to see this.

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And then we kind of, I think we

had a plan to go to one restaurant.

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And from that we kind of got

there where it looked up local

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foods and allowed ourselves.

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Time to do the exploring, but we

had a couple set things to anchor

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our plans in and I don't know

about you, Christine, but I really

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enjoyed that trip for that reason.

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I was, there was enough freedom that you

weren't so confined by a schedule, but

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then there was enough of a schedule that

I wasn't feel like, Oh my gosh, there's

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too much to do and I'll never see it or

we'll never get, you know, do something.

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So,

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Christine: and it was great because

the things that came out of those

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scheduled things, the guides that led

the tours, they gave us recommendations.

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Like, I think we did a walking tour,

a history walking tour during the day.

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And our, our guide gave us a

recommendation for a restaurant

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that we ended up checking

out that night for dinner.

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And it was, If we had scheduled

every meal for that trip, we

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wouldn't have been able to do that.

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So it was a perfect balance of the two.

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So I'm starting to find that

balance is what we want to achieve.

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But maybe the idea of balance today is

what makes me want to pull my hair out.

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So, Alexandra, how do you plan to

incorporate contrast into your life

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Alexandra: Ooh.

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Okay.

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As we've established, I am somebody

who enjoys her schedules like things

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planned, but I do want to take the

time to say yes to new opportunities,

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embrace things that come up.

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And this is where I can also

fall into a contrast extreme

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rate of I can over extend myself.

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So yes, finding the sweet spot of

the contrast of the sit down and

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study and the go out and have fun.

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And so that is what my goal, I'm

going to shoot for like the next

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three months to seriously work on

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that.

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Another thing on the to do list, but

I'm, I definitely want to do that

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because I want to be careful of, I

have the tendency to overextend, over

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invest myself due to who I am and my

personality, but that can cause me to

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burn out and get so overwhelmed and

almost revert back to wanting to just stay

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inside and hermit So it's going to be an

interesting journey, because I do want to

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experience more of the contrasts of life,

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without going beyond.

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So that's my goal, I

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think.

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Yeah.

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Christine: I think that's

really, that's really great.

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And also I think when you are starting

to embrace contrast more, and if you start

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to feel overwhelmed, I think knowing that

you can still say no, like even if you

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decided to do this, really consciously

Thinking about, is this good for me now?

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I thought it was

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two, two, three, four days ago, but

maybe now in this moment it's not.

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And then also, not taking on guilt,

because I think at least I struggle with

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this so much, is that feeling of guilt,

especially if I make the plans with

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friends or family, or if I make a promise

to myself and then I let myself down, that

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idea of like, you're not letting yourself

down, you're actually helping yourself

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and setting that idea of embracing

contrast with healthy boundaries.

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So.

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You may have every intention to

embrace the contrast of life,

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but you know, recognizing when

it might be doing you more harm

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than good is an invaluable skill.

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Alexandra: So what I'm hearing you

say is the part that I liked about

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the quote of join a cult and then

start one May not have the healthy

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boundaries Okay, I guess I've learned

my lesson world domination through a

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cult is is not going to happen today

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Christine: Well, it's just, we haven't

found a healthy, we just haven't

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found a healthy way to Strive for

world domination, but who knows maybe

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through this journey, we will find it

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Alexandra: So on that I guess then how

Christine are you going to incorporate

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contrast into your life's going forward

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Christine: Yeah, I think something

I tend to do when I look at my to do

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lists is when I get overwhelmed by

it I'll just start a new to do list.

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Like I'll just throw out the

old one and start the new one.

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And it's like that act of starting

from scratch and starting fresh.

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That really doesn't answer anything

of the question you've asked me,

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but it just popped into my head.

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So I wanted to share it.

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But.

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Alexandra: I like this.

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I'm taking an action to

repeat the same step I

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Christine: Yeah, because in my

head it's, I'm doing something new.

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I'm not, I'm writing the

same stuff that I have to do.

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But anyway how am I going

to embrace contrast?

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I think I inadvertently have

started to do that this year.

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Just when I was sort of starting to set

goals for myself, I was finally, I've

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reached a point where I don't want to keep

putting off things I really want to do.

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I'm kind of envisioning that as what's

in contrast to say what old Christine

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was, or like last year Christine was,

Always sort of holding myself back from

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really doing the things I want to do.

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So honestly, this is allowing

me to sort of embrace.

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Contrast, and, not giving

myself permission, but,

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Alexandra: well, you say, Not giving

yourself permission, but I think

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that's an important part of it, right?

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Because if you haven't allowed yourself

to really embrace contrast, that

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might be an important first step.

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Christine: That's a good

point, yeah, you're right.

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So, I guess, my, here and how I'm going

to incorporate it is I've made the

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decision that I'm going to go after the

things I've always been wanting to do.

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Some of the things I've, I've shared on

here and on our social media, but a couple

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of other things are like, I've always

wanted to get a tattoo multiple tattoos.

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And I've thought extensively about

that and how Which ones I want to do

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and all of that and I want to start

taking action to finally do that for

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myself Realistically, that's in like I'm

thinking like my first time doing that.

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Hopefully I was sort of thinking like

April so just sort of Finally, allowing

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myself to do the things I've always

wanted to do, while also understanding,

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like, there's a long list of things

I have to do, and sort of see, see

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how this feels for a little bit.

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And just sort of, redefining what

balance means to me, and how that, how

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incorporating contrast will actually

potentially help me find balance.

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Alexandra: I like it.

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And also what I've heard out of that

is we, as the Mirror Project podcast

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community, should be expecting to see a

picture of Christine's tattoo in the next

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couple of months on our social media.

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Would that be an accurate,

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Christine: I guess,

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so, maybe.

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Yeah.

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We, we

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shall

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Alexandra: be your

accountability partners for

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Christine: Okay.

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Thanks, guys.

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I appreciate that.

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Alexandra: so that's, I really

like that, and it does make sense.

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It is, and I, I think what we've,

to distill some of this section of

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incorporating contrast is, it probably

won't look the same for everyone.

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And it's finding the areas

in which you feel comfortable

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incorporating that contrast.

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And perhaps this is something

of progressive journey, right?

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You can start small if that feels wildly

unknown to you, and then build a little

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bit more, or if you're totally cool with

jumping off the cliff into the unknown,

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finding a way to fully embrace it.

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So that brings us to the

conclusion of this episode.

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And as you have seen, we have

traveled the seesaw of this topic,

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and I think we found our footing,

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Christine: Yeah.

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I think so.

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It took Took a minute, but we'll see.

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I think we might

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need to, yeah, we might need to check

back in and revisit this maybe on a future

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episode and just sort of check in with

each other and hold ourselves accountable

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to see how, we were doing, but yeah,

I think, I think we found our footing.

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Alexandra: So on that, we would love

for you listening to share your thoughts

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on whether balance is achievable

or if contrast is the better goal.

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And which are you leaning towards?

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We hope you enjoyed today's conversation

and that you'll be joining us next week

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where we will dive into the history of St.

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Patrick's Day.

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We are digging in to find out the

real story behind the holiday so many

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people celebrate, and party to, today.

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See you then!

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