Episode 14
Pack your bags! It's time to fly!
Episode 14: Travel Diaries - Unleash Your Wanderlust
Welcome to The Mirror Project!
Hello, fellow wanderers and adventurers, and welcome to another exhilarating episode of The Mirror Project! Join intrepid hosts Alexandra and Christine, and today, we're whisking you away on a journey through the enchanting world of travel. So, grab your virtual bags as we dive headfirst into another chapter of one of our favorite shared passions!
The Mirror Project’s Three Month Check-in
But before we jet off, let's hit the pause button for a moment. It's our three-month check-in, folks! How's everyone feeling? Are we still riding the podcasting high or feeling like we've hit a mid-season slump? Let's dish out what we've loved - any standout moments or episodes that have us grinning from ear to ear? And hey, if there's something we want to switch up, now's the time to spill the beans! What's on the chopping block or getting a makeover for the next leg of our journey?
Stay Connected
Before we delve into today's topic, be sure to like, subscribe, or follow us on your preferred listening platform. Go ahead, hit that button now; we'll wait!
The Wheres
Where Have We Been? Christine has explored the US, Poland, England, Italy, Bermuda, Aruba, and more, while Alexandra has ventured to the US, Mexico, Canada, France, Spain, and beyond.
Where Do We Want to Go? Christine dreams of Canada, Ireland, Scotland, Iceland, and beyond, while Alexandra's list spans from England to Greece and beyond.
Where Would We Go Again? Christine fondly reminisces about Italy and England, while Alexandra cherishes memories of Canada and France.
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Travel Tips
Lessons Learned: Pack strategically, invest in travel-sized products, and always have a backup outfit in your carry-on. Must-Share Tips: From TSA Precheck to travel insurance, leave room for spontaneity, and consider house swapping over hotels. Influencers We Love: Get inspired by the adventures of Maddie Smith (@onthemovewithmad) and the tips from Well+Good Travels (@wellandgoodtravels).
If We Were to Move Abroad
Why haven’t we and where would we go? Christine contemplates England for its language ease, while Alexandra weighs the practicalities of Canada or the allure of France.
Closing Thoughts
As our journey through the world of travel comes to a close, we've shared tales of wanderlust, reminisced about past adventures, and dreamed of destinations yet to be explored. Whether you're navigating cobblestone streets or hiking through wilderness, each journey promises discovery and growth. Thank you for joining us on this expedition. Until next time, keep exploring, stay curious, and let the journey continue.
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Transcript
Hello, Wanderers, Explorers, and fellow adventurers to the MIR Project,
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:where reflection meets adventure today.
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:We are your hosts, Alexandra,
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:Christine: And Christine.
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:Alexandra: and we are going to be your
guides through the world of travel.
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:Pack your virtual bags as we delve
into another chapter of one of our
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:favorite shared passions, traveling.
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:But before we begin our travel
log extravaganza, let's hit
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:a pause button for a moment.
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:It's our three month check in, folks.
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:How's everyone feeling?
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:Thanks Are we still riding the
podcast high or feeling like
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:we've hit a mid season slump?
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:Let's dish out what we've loved any
standout moments or episodes that
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:have had a screening from ear to ear.
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:And Hey, if there's something
we want to switch up, now's
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:the time to spill the beans.
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:What's on the chopping block or getting a
makeover for the next leg of our journey.
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:Christine, what are your thoughts?
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:Christine: What are my thoughts?
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:I'm So far, loving it.
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:I, aside from getting to see you
so often and record these episodes,
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:I have been loving the creative
outlet of editing these together.
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:I don't think we've addressed it, but I
am our sound editor for this podcast.
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:So that's been such a
creative outlet for me.
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:I would say.
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:There's been some growing pains
figuring out how it's all working.
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:This is my first time working on
a podcast, so I'm learning a lot.
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:And.
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:Sometimes it doesn't come together
as easily as I would have liked it
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:to, but I'm still really enjoying it.
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:I think my hope is that I continue
to push myself to go deeper and
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:become more vulnerable as we go on.
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:I feel like we've been building a nice
foundation, introducing ourselves nicely,
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:But there's still so much more and I,
I keep trying to remind myself as I sit
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:and reflect after we record like, oh,
next time I want to go just a little
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:bit deeper or, oh, I want to make a
note of a point that I wish I had made.
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:And if we circle back to this
topic, I want to bring it up.
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:So that's, that's kind of
how I've been feeling so far.
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:What about you, Alexandra?
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:Alexandra: Well, it has been a journey and
I know, I think we've briefly mentioned
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:how we actually started a lot of this
back in September, really planning out.
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:So I'm loving that because while this is
the second podcast I've worked on, this
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:is the first and only one that I've done
where we're, Both of us, we do everything.
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:So everything you see on Instagram or in
all the business stuff, that's just us.
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:So there have definitely been some
growing pains, but I think it's really
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:good because we do want this to flourish
and expand and grow and having, I
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:think that basis will really help us.
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:I can definitely tell we've gotten
much more comfortable talking into
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:a mic to each other and including
our audience when recording.
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:As we have progressed
through the episodes.
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:And I think we're starting and really
finding our flow of how we want to
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:kind of guide the conversations and
kind of just the flow of things.
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:So I definitely think we've Both
got more comfortable about prompting
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:each other when we're like, Oh, hey,
let's, let's keep the pace moving.
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:And so I like that we, but still
allowing for flexibility for
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:things to spontaneously come up.
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:Let's see any standout moments.
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:So our listeners probably don't hear much
of this, but I think at some point we will
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:have to release a blooper reel because
that will have me grinning ear to ear.
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:Like we'll just mess up and we just
keep the words coming out or gibberish
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:or we try to say it again and again
and be like, ah, you know what?
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:We've lost it.
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:Let's just try something else.
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:It's been really fun
when we've had guests on.
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:So I'm hoping that we can really.
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:Start to do that with some more frequency.
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:Christine: too.
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:I love having another another voice
in the conversation, you know, like
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:after a while, I'm like, I hate
hearing my voice over and over again.
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:But having, guests on is, is so fun.
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:I know we have some coming up, so
that'll be a nice nice bonus for,
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:for me and for those listening.
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:I think.
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:One of my favorite, like some of my
favorite episodes we have done so far is
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:taking it back to when we first launched
our episode on sayings and mantras.
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:And then also the episode am I confident?
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:I thought
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:those two were they tie together
nicely actually, and are like, In some
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:ways, mirror images of each other.
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:I think they, they touch on similar
things and so those are so far some of
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:my favorite episodes we've had done,
but I I also love having guests on.
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:So I'm very excited for,
for more of that to happen.
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:How about you?
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:Do you have a favorite?
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:Alexandra: A favorite so far.
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:Oh, I don't know.
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:There's been so many good moments
and favorite moments in each episode.
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:I think I enjoyed our book
conversation because I'm just a huge
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:bibliophile, so I just love to read
and, and so that was kind of fun.
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:And I think as we mentioned in the
episode, it could have gone on for five
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:Christine: Yeah.
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:I feel like we barely scratched
the surface of that topic.
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:Alexandra: So definitely
something we'll come back to.
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:And I think that's it, right?
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:Like trying to remember that we don't have
to shove everything into one conversation.
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:It can be multiple.
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:Like earlier you were talking about
how to become more vulnerable and
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:maybe think of an image like a
budding flower or rose where it just
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:like releases one petal at a time.
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:And then over time it comes as beautiful.
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:big beautiful open flower.
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:And I'm like, okay, we just have
to remember, it's just peeling
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:back, opening up the layers.
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:I really liked the history lesson of St.
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:Patrick's day.
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:So I, I know that we have On our schedule
for:
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:that are a bit more history based.
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:So I'm really excited to kind of delve
into the research of those and plan them.
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:Christine: Yeah.
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:That was a lot of fun.
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:I really enjoyed that.
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:Alexandra: trying to think if there's
anything on the chopping block, but
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:before we get into that, I do want to
say I would, I want, and I crave to see
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:more engagement back from our listeners.
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:If I want them to send us ideas
of what, I know we'll have a Q
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:and A episode coming up sometime.
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:I think this summer we'd planned one, but
I crave that feedback and I want people to
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:jump into our conversations, but I have a
feeling it's not It's going to take time.
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:And as we've established, I'm somebody
who's like, I want it to all to
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:be perfect and amazing right now.
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:But Christine, is there anything
you think we're gonna, you know,
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:cut back on or adjust for the next,
I don't know, three months or so
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:Christine: I think, I don't
know if there's anything I
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:want to say, let's cut yet.
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:I think I want to workshop some things
and try out some different things.
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:I think, you know, I, I love I think
I, I might want to insert more of these
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:little segments like we're doing here,
like this little check in where we sort of
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:see where In the case of today's episode,
it's how we're feeling three months into
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:the podcast, which is crazy for, for me
to even think we're three months in, but
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:we are, but, you know, doing that more
often and just before we dive into the,
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:the main part of our conversation, just
sort of have these nice check ins and,
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:or I don't know, maybe introduce some
segments, come up with some fun Things to
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:add, add different elements to an episode.
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:So those are things I have
brewing in the back of my head.
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:I don't know.
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:Alexandra: which we would be taking
recommendations for segments from our
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:Christine: Definitely.
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:Those are I think a couple of
things That have come to mind.
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:I know when we were first coming
up with topics and things, I
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:was like, what if we did this?
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:What if we did this?
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:What if we did this?
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:So I want to revisit some of
those ideas and see how we might
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:be able to incorporate that.
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:But I also want to continue To grow
our content on Instagram and our social
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:because right now it's a great place for
us to sort of get the word out about the
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:episodes we have coming out and different
topics, but I kind of want to come up
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:with content that's specific for our
social media to also encourage engagement.
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:You know, that'll, that'll come in time.
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:I want to, you know, you know, think
thoughtfully about what sort of
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:content we want to put out there.
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:So I'm, I'm not going to rush to
do it, but that's, that's on my
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:mind and, and something I want to.
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:Alexandra: But I would definitely say
that we provide good balance for each
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:other because Christine will sometimes be
like, I want to do all this and this, and
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:I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
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:What can we realistically do with that?
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:And then I will go off into a thing,
I'm like, da da da da da da da,
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:and she'll be like, whoa, whoa.
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:Alexander, rein it back in.
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:Okay, let's start here.
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:So I think it's it's, it's great,
but we'll, we definitely let each
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:other's fancies fly and, and kind
of just totally brainstorm and throw
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:out the wild ideas and we go, okay,
we're going to file that away for
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:later and bring it up as necessary.
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:So I will enjoy that part.
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:So, oh, when you were talking about the
check ins, it made me think of our last
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:episode where we talked about, oh, we'll
have to check in again about what our,
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:how we're doing with the The commitments
we made to bettering ourselves for
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:the environment and all that made me
think of all the things we're like, Oh,
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:we're gonna have to come back to that.
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:Oh, we'll keep each other updated.
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:Or so I definitely think that could
be one of the segments of like, Oh,
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:hey, a check in, you know, remember
that thing we talked about in
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:the, the, am I confident episode?
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:How, how are we doing with that?
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:Or the, you know, have you, have
we actually reduced plastics in
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:our life or have we done something
else environmentally friendly?
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:So I definitely liked the idea of that.
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:Yeah.
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:Christine: I think that's a great idea.
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:Alexandra: All right.
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:Ready to dive in now?
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:Christine: Yeah, I think I'll just,
I'll, I'll put this one less disclaimer,
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:and we want to hear from you listening.
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:Give us your feedback.
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:What are your thoughts so far
on how the episodes are going?
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:What, are you liking the topics?
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:Do you want, what do you want more of?
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:What do you want less of?
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:We want to know.
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:So Thank you.
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:Please engage with us on our
socials or send us an email
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:or comment on this episode.
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:And we're just so grateful that
you're, you're here listening.
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:Alexandra: So after that little sojourn
into the three month check in, let us
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:now buckle up because we're about to
embark on a journey filled with tales,
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:tips, and maybe a few travel mishaps.
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:Let's dive in.
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:Christine: Before we dive into today's
topic, like, subscribe, or follow us
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:on your preferred listening platform.
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:Go ahead, pause, and do
it now before you forget.
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:Don't worry, we won't
get started without you!
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:Alexandra: Okay.
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:So Christine, to kick us off,
let's talk about the where's.
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:Where have we been?
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:Where do we want to go?
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:Where would we go again?
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:So, do you want to start us off by
telling us where you have traveled
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:Christine: yeah, I'd love to.
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:So I'm so excited that
we're doing this episode.
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:I love to travel.
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:If I could, I would, that, I would
love to make that a job, but who knows,
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:maybe one day I will, but let's see,
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:Alexandra: I was about to say, is there
anyone from a travel magazine listening?
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:Because I think Christine would
want to submit an application.
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:Christine: But, oh gosh,
so where have I been?
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:Well I currently live and
have grown up in the States.
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:So been to a number of States here,
but internationally I've gone to
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:Poland, England, Italy, taken some
family vacations down to Bermuda
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:and Aruba and more specifically
cities that I I've really loved.
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:Visiting has been London, Rome Florence.
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:We stayed in the Chianti region of Italy
where Florence is one of the cities.
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:I've been to Krakow and Poland, and
that was a really interesting trip.
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:It was a two week, essentially, I
consider it a pilgrimage because it
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:was not how I've ever traveled before.
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:I went with my university for World
Youth Day and, We stayed with host
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:families and we stayed in like
a hostile sort of accommodation.
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:So it was very different to
the travel I've experienced.
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:But it was also so rewarding because I got
to see parts of the world that I'd never
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:Like, I am Polish I have Polish heritage,
but I, I never really have thought much
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:about visiting the country of Poland.
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:So it was, it was a wonderful
opportunity for me to visit.
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:Krakow is a very vibrant city.
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:I, I really enjoyed my time there.
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:But I also got to visit Auschwitz
Birkenau, which was a very moving day for,
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:for all of us who were there on the trip.
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:You know, you learn about that in
your history book, but actually seeing
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:being physically in that place, it
has a different energy you know, it
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:was obviously very emotional, but
I am so blessed that I've had that
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:experience, because it really put
things into perspective, and Helped
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:me think about things that I haven't
necessarily taken the time to before.
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:So that's one of the
things I love about travel.
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:It opens you up to those new
experiences and different
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:cultures and different people.
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:So those are some of the places I've been.
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:How about you, Alexandra?
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:Wherever you've been.
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:Hi
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:Alexandra: So I've been to a
much fewer places so far than
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:Christine, but I definitely have
many plans to go more places.
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:Countries that I've been to
have obviously been the States.
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:That's where I live and grew up.
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:We used to live in Southern
California, so I've been down to
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:Mexico because it was so close.
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:I've been to Canada, France, and Spain,
and of those cities, I've really only
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:been to La Paz in Mexico Toronto, Niagara
Falls, the Canadian side Quebec, Montreal.
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:So, I really love Canada.
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:It was so beautiful, and there's
so, there's other places I would
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:love to go in Canada and go back
to the ones that I have been to.
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:In France, I've been to twice on two
separate, like, study abroad excursions.
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:One was in high school,
one was in college.
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:So I've been through Paris, Toulouse,
Nice, Nîmes, Aix en Provence,
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:Carcassonne, and would love to go back.
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:I really enjoyed them, as well as Arles.
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:And then in Spain, I went
through Madrid and Paris.
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:Barcelona, I can't remember
if there were any other stops.
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:So the one in high school, we went
to France and Spain and we started
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:in Madrid and ended in Paris
and that was kind of beautiful.
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:It touched on a lot.
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:Got to see a lot of
Gaudi works in Barcelona.
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:So I love that because I already had
an interest in art history at the time,
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:but I hadn't taken my Art history, AP
art history class in senior year by
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:then so it further sparked my curiosity.
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:In college, I went on a study abroad for,
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:I feel like it was something
about Viking history.
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:And so we went through the South of
France and that's when I went to Arles
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:and Aix en Provence and Nimes and Nice.
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:I'm trying to think of where we landed.
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:I might have landed.
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:So we, yeah, we saw a lot of like museums
and sites of like the Gallic people
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:and Viking ships and I don't know what
else you call long boats that were, it
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:was a, it was a really great experience
and it was a beautiful balance of both
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:educational, but then I think class time
ended around 6 PM and we're like, all
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:right, go free, have fun, just be on
the bus, you know, by the next morning
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:and I think that's where I'm trying to
remember which city it was in, but I
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:went to a Turkish bath and that was fun.
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:And it was just, so I loved my time
there and would definitely go back.
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:It was great.
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:So, okay.
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:We've both hinted at where we'd
want to go, but Christine, what,
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:what is on your list at least right
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:Christine: Well, I'll start with I'll
start with one that I'm actually going
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:to be going to this year, but I've
not been to yet, which is Ireland.
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:I'm going to Ireland at the
end of the summer I think
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:like the last week of August.
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:That has been on my bucket
list for a very long time.
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:But other countries, you know,
staying in that region, Scotland,
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:Wales I would love to go to Canada.
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:I mean, that I feel like is one of
the easiest countries to get to.
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:Because it's so close, but Let's see.
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:Oh my gosh, my list is so long.
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:I'm just gonna rattle them off.
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:Here we go.
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:I definitely want to go to Iceland, the
Netherlands, specifically Amsterdam.
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:I have been in Love with the sound of
music ever since I was a little girl.
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:So I have a big desire to go to Austria
and go to Vienna and have my, my
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:sound of music moment on the mountains
and And saying the hills are alive,
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:you know, have, have that moment.
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:And then Greece would love
to have my mama Mia moment.
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:The list goes on and on you know, it's
coming back to this side of the world.
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:Mexico, Panama, Brazil, Argentina.
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:I'd love to explore South America.
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:I'd, I'd love to go all the way
down to the far tip of Argentina
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:and go to Patagonia and see, see the
beautiful the beautiful scenery there.
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:And actually.
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:Alexandra and I are hoping to plan
a trip for ourselves ne next year,
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:I think I turned 30 this year, so
I was like, I wanna go on a trip.
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:Will you be my travel buddy?
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:Alexandra: I was like, absolutely.
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:Christine: a hundred percent.
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:So we're planning a trip to hit Italy
and France with the idea the central
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:idea was taking a train from Venice.
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:to Paris.
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:Once I saw that, I was like sold because
I've always wanted to go to Venice.
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:I've been to Italy before, as I just
mentioned, but I've never been to Venice.
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:I've had a love affair with Venice
ever since I started learning
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:about Italy and the culture and the
language and obviously the food.
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:And I've not been to Northern Italy.
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:I mostly stayed central.
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:So Venice and Paris and France.
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:You know, gosh, I feel like
I, my list keeps going.
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:You know, I'd, I'd love to experience
Spain and in, in Africa, I've always
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:wanted to go to Egypt travel all the
way down to South Africa, like, oh gosh.
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:And you know, I, I don't know if
it is achievable, but my like, Long
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:shot bucket list item is Singapore.
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:I, I want, I would love
to go to Singapore.
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:So there's there's many more I have not
mentioned, but I'm gonna let Alexandra
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:share her, her, her travel bucket list now
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:Alexandra: Well, and also that as
ambitious as that list is I see a
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:note on our notes here that you, you
want to also make it to all 50 states
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:here.
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:So let's not diminish that
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:Christine: that's very,
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:true.
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:I, I, I definitely want to, you
know, travel more of The states.
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:I've been pretty much been all
up and down the east coast.
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:I've been to California, but I haven't
explored much of the West coast yet.
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:And, there's all of all you
know, all of middle America.
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:I, I, I'd really love to
experience every state go up, go
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:up to Alaska, go out to Hawaii.
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:But yeah, I want to see
more of this country.
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:I've lived in my whole life.
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:Alexandra: as I'm looking at your
list, I kind of feel like an idiot
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:because I didn't mention that I've been
to DC and Georgia where I was born.
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:I feel like that was a major oversight.
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:Christine: We're doing great.
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:Alexandra: So anyways, okay.
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:So kind of sticking with the U S first.
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:I'd love to visit Arizona.
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:People keep telling me
that I would enjoy it.
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:I'd like to see Colorado,
definitely go back to California.
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:I've heard a lot about Portland,
Oregon, and I think that
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:would be exciting to visit.
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:I'd love to go back to Georgia.
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:I was born in Macon, and I've been
to Atlanta for a competition before.
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:But I would really like to go to Savannah.
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:I've heard wonderful things about
it, so I'd like to see that.
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:I really enjoy D.
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:C., so I would go back again.
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:Trying to think.
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:I know Christine would like me to
go up to Newport, Rhode Island.
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:So that is definitely on the
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:Christine: I love Newport.
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:My family loves Newport.
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:Alexandra: I wouldn't mind
seeing more of the Adirondacks,
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:actually any of the Adirondacks.
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:In kind of New York area.
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:So definitely some things I'd
like to see in the States.
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:I do have, Much less desire to see
the central part of the States.
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:I don't know why it's just never been
something I'm like, Oh, I must go
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:to Minnesota or I must go to Kansas.
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:So maybe that'll change one
day, but right now, not so much.
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:Going back to Canada, I'd love to go to.
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:The British Columbia side and
see Vancouver trying to think
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:of maybe like Newfoundland area.
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:So I'd like to explore more in Canada and
obviously go back to the places I have
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:been and do even more exploring there.
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:I really enjoyed the Quebec province.
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:Let's see, trying to get to my list here.
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:All right, other countries.
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:England I would love to see London,
Glastonbury, the Isle of Man, Manchester,
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:Stonehenge the Salisbury Plain.
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:I'd also love to go to Scotland,
particularly, mostly because they're
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:the ones I know of, but Edinburgh.
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:And glasgow and really
kind of explore from there.
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:Love to see more of that Ireland,
obviously Dublin, I feel like
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:if you don't go, you have to
hit the major cities, right?
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:And correct me if I'm wrong, but the
cliffs of Dover are in Ireland, right?
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:Or is that England?
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:Christine: have to look it up.
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:Hold on.
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:Why don't you keep listing
your, and I'll look it up.
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:Alexandra: I would like to hit Wales.
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:Don't really know much about it.
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:So definitely the whole British
Isles there and kind of moving
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:more onto mainland Europe.
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:I'm thinking I'd love to go back to Spain,
maybe visit some of the Basque region
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:maybe Portugal too going back to France.
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:I'd love to maybe visit Burgundy and
other, other regions that I have not been
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:to, obviously going back to ones that I
have because they were just so beautiful
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:and I'd love to explore more now as well.
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:Like a later twenties, an
adult versus when I was a
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:teenager and then going,
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:Christine: No, yeah, I think you
said the Clus of Dover, right?
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:That is in, that's a region of
the English coastline facing
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:the Strait of Dover and France.
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:Alexandra: Oh, I was on the
wrong side of the Island there.
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:Whoops.
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:But anyways, I'd like
to see more of Ireland.
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:Moving on to mainland, kind of Italy.
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:I'd love to see, I know
Christine's been to Rome.
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:I'd love to see the Vatican.
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:Florence, Sicily, Milan, Pisa.
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:So many places that I studied through
my degrees in art history, or that
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:I would like to see in person.
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:So I think a lot of my travel will be
driven by like, I want to see where
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:this was, and where this was painted,
or you know, where this was carved.
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:And then obviously we talked about it.
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:Venice is on the bucket list there.
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:So that will be checked off in 2025.
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:Greece, I'd love to visit Athens,
Santorini, Olympia, Delphi, Crete.
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:So much art and mythology
was produced there.
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:I'd love to see the
Acropolis and an Acropolis.
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:Necropolis.
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:Sorry, mixing up all my terms here today.
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:I'd like to go visit Prague in
the Czech Republic Amsterdam
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:in the Netherlands Germany.
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:I haven't really, that's a lie.
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:I have been to Frankfurt,
only in the airport.
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:So I would like to actually Go
visit Berlin, Munich, Cologne,
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:maybe, maybe actually see
Frankfurt, not from the airport.
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:That'd be cool.
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:And in Iceland, I'd really like to
go to the, the capital, Reykjavik.
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:And looking at some of Christine's
lists, it brought up some things that
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:I'd, I'd really like to go to Turkey.
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:And I love Turkish food, and I
feel like it'd just be so fun.
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:to, to go see and explore culture.
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:Egypt, I'd love to go.
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:I've always felt a draw towards Egypt,
but you know, with the way the world is
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:right now, not sure that I would go today.
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:Yeah, I feel like I'm a more
like northern kind of person.
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:I feel like once I start to get south of
the equator, I'm like, I gotta have this.
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:thing of like, it's kind of be too hot.
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:Christine: Well, if you go all
the way down, it'll be cold again.
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:Alexandra: Go back to cold.
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:Yeah, unfortunately Antarctica
has not been on my bucket list and
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:I don't know that I will make it.
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:So I'm trying to think if there's
really any other place that I've
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:been dreaming to go from as a child.
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:Christine: I neglected to mention,
but Australia, New Zealand, Thailand.
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:as I mentioned, have been up and down
the east coast, have been, been to a
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:smattering of other states, but I'd love
to Fun fact was born in Florida, but
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:I'd love to go down to the Florida Keys.
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:I would love to go.
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:There's so many beautiful natural
wonders here in the States.
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:I'd love to go to Yosemite and road
trip down from Washington state into
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:Northern California and go see the
redwoods and the grand Canyon and go
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:up to Arcadia national park in Maine.
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:So.
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:There's all these, there's all these
cities I want to go for the culture,
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:for the people, for, you know, the food,
but there's also the, the beautiful
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:nature wonders that I want to experience
not just in the States, also abroad,
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:Alexandra: Okay.
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:So I know that we've both briefly touched
on where we would go again, but top
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:five where you would absolutely travel
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:Christine: okay.
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:Well.
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:My number one will probably be Rome.
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:I absolutely love the city of Rome.
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:I've been two times.
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:I'm hoping to bring Alexandra next year.
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:We, we do a little pit stop in Rome.
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:So definitely would
love to go back to Rome.
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:England.
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:I'd love to go back to London.
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:Let's see.
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:New Orleans.
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:We took a trip to, we've talked
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:about this.
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:We've took a trip down to
New Orleans a few years back.
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:That city is so fun.
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:I'd love to go in October or like the
fall time and experience, experience
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:the, the change of seasons down there.
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:Charleston, South Carolina
is a It's a fun city.
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:It kind of gives Newport vibes.
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:Newport New Orleans vibes.
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:It's like a nice mash of the
two in my, in my mind, at
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:least.
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:Newport always.
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:As I emphatically proclaimed
earlier, my family loves Newport.
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:I, I it's not a year, a year, Doesn't
go by with without us having at
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:least one, one stop in Newport.
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:We love it.
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:Boston.
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:My sister has went to school there
and has been living there ever since.
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:Boston's such a fun city.
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:I feel like there's so much I still
have yet to experience from Boston.
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:DC.
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:I've, I've only been once and it's
been maybe 13 years since I've
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:been so I I'm dying to go back
and experience it as an adult.
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:I went think when I was in seventh
or eighth grade, it was like a
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:people to people ambassador program.
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:I don't know if you've ever
heard of that organization, but
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:they, they do They do trip.
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:They, they do these programs all
over the world, but and you get
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:recommended by your teacher and that
I was recommended for the one down DC.
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:So Nicole, my sister,
Nicole and I did that.
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:So I'd love to go back and
experience DC as an adult.
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:But let me think.
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:You mentioned the Adirondacks.
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:My family has taken some lovely trips
up to Lake George doing whitewater
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:rafting on the upper Hudson river.
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:And it's, it's so beautiful up there.
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:And I'll wrap it up here.
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:Nashville, my sister just moved.
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:Not just, she's almost Almost a year
out there since graduating from college.
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:So I spent some time there last summer.
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:Nashville is such a fun city,
the music, food, the people.
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:It's so fun.
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:And then we last summer took
a little trip out to the outer
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:banks and that was so much fun.
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:Duck is such a beautiful area.
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:Alexandra: I was just thinking of
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:Christine: Yeah, that was probably
one of my favorite stops on
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:the trip was going up to Ducks.
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:So those are just a couple.
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:There's, I'm sure more that I'll kick
myself for not mentioning later, but yeah.
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:Alexandra: So as I've mentioned
definitely a few places I would
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:go back to and I'm probably
probably going to forget some, but.
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:Big ones.
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:I'd love to go back to Huntington beach
where I spent a lot of time growing up in
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:California, San Francisco in California.
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:And then I, New Orleans,
Louisiana, always, will always be
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:some place I want to return to.
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:I felt so rejuvenated there.
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:I love New York City.
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:So that will always be a go to
and I've only been to DC once but
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:I cannot wait to go back again.
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:So definitely to go see all
the museums but to walk around.
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:I really enjoyed the Georgetown area.
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:So I'm excited for that.
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:Trying to think of any other places
in the States before I forget.
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:No, I think I've covered it
of like the must go back to
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:and then moving up to Canada.
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:I would love to go back to
Montreal and then old Quebec.
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:I'd love to see it and
explore more of that.
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:Kind of think of the places obviously
I would probably want to spend more
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:time in Toronto I think I've only
really mostly passed through Toronto.
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:So actually spending time in there
Going back to France Paris, obviously, I
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:feel like I could explore that forever.
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:I only got like two hours in the Louvre
and a good portion of that was going
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:with trying, going with a friend and
we were trying to find the restroom.
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:So unfortunately I did not
spend a whole lot of time in
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:the museum and I would love to.
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:So, and just walking around
the city was so nice.
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:Like down the Champs Elysees and
everything to kind of, I think we really
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:only spent time in a couple of the
demarcations of the city, and I'd love
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:to kind of maybe go to more of the outer
ones because I don't think I've the time
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:I've been there really explored back to
Toulouse and I think it's nicknamed the
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:red and Brick city because there's so
much red brick really good food there.
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:I'd go back to Nice, which is on the south
of France and In Spain, I would definitely
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:go back to Barcelona because I'd love to
see more of Gaudi's work I think when I
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:was there there was not construction But
there was so much scaffolding outside of
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:the Sagrera de Femi the church he designed
because they were cleaning a lot of the
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:sculpture he'd put on the, the outside.
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:So I'd actually like to go see that
without the scaffolding and see it.
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:And it's all, it's beauty.
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:So those are my must go
back to again so far.
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:Christine: Amazing.
582
:Well, we just gotta, we just gotta
start booking those trips, right?
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:I was thinking about some such great
advice I was given is set that challenge
584
:for yourself where you, you, you try and
book two adventures every year Whether
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:that be a trip abroad or, or staying
local exploring your, your own community
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:and being a tourist in your own town.
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:You know, that's, that's some
ways to fill that desire for,
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:for travel and adventures.
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:So why don't we now jump into
our next topic on travel tips,
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:what lessons we have learned.
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:So Alexandra, why don't you kick us off?
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:What, what sort of things come to mind?
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:Alexandra: okay.
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:So lessons learned.
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:I feel like a lot of it
comes down to packing and.
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:One thing that I have luckily not
personally learned, but have learned from
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:is to always pack an extra, particularly
if you're not just going like an out
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:and back trip or you're going to go
for a few days or going abroad, packing
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:backup outfit, a second outfit, you
in your carry on like your must need
600
:toiletries and I would actually pack
a couple extra pairs of underwear and
601
:socks because you just never know.
602
:I'm thinking if your luggage gets lost
or is delayed and is on another flight
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:so you'd have to go back and get it,
always having kind of an extra pair of
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:something to change into makes me feel
good because I sometimes when I get off
605
:a plane, even if I've, you know, showered
and left great beforehand, you get off
606
:and you're like, I feel kind of Like
sticky, like I'm just don't feel good.
607
:So that is, I think one of the things,
and I know that Christine and I both
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:have a habit of deciding what we want
to pack and kind of making lists.
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:So don't forget things
like chargers or shoes.
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:You know, you don't want to get there
and go, Oh, Hey, I don't have my sneakers
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:because we're doing a lot of walking.
612
:And so I, I, Must now walk in heels.
613
:That would be so
uncomfortable for a whole day.
614
:So I think that's a huge thing.
615
:And I know Christine has some thoughts
about travel size stuff and packing cubes.
616
:What, what do you recommend the use for
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:Christine: Well my, my advice is today,
especially I feel like if you walk
618
:into a Sephora, your favorite brands
have travel size of, of everything.
619
:So my tip is.
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:You know, invest in the travel size
option and then going forward, just
621
:refill those containers with the products
that you're already using because, you
622
:know, I find like it's, sucky when you
are traveling with products that you
623
:don't use and, you know, Just because
their travel size and those products,
624
:you know, most like your, your go to
products most likely are in a travel size.
625
:So, so get yourself the travel
size of your favorite moisturizer
626
:or SPF or things like that.
627
:Alexandra: Or invest in like
good travel size containers that
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:you can put your own stuff in,
629
:Christine: that's true.
630
:That's true.
631
:And then packing cubes save me every time.
632
:I, I try not to over pack, but you know,
sometimes, sometimes it happens, but.
633
:But
634
:travel, travel, cubes, you know,
help compress and keep everything
635
:compartmentalized and the thing I
hate, most about traveling is for my
636
:luggage to be unorganized and disheveled
and that there'd be no order because
637
:then, you know, that's my mind's
already dealing with the, uncertainty
638
:of of what travel can, can do.
639
:Alexandra: I have one kind of
in this coming back to the socks
640
:and like underwear packing.
641
:Those things that are easily washable in a
sink because I'm thinking if you're going
642
:on a long trip and maybe you don't have
access to a washer and dryer either in
643
:your hotel or a house that you're staying
at and you may not want to go spend the
644
:time at a laundromat, that's totally fine.
645
:Having something you can
wash in a sink is helpful.
646
:So packing maybe like baby
soap that you can clean things
647
:and they dry pretty easily.
648
:You made me think of that because I
think, Christine, you had sent me a
649
:video of, it was like, some girls on
a trip and they were gone for 20 days
650
:or something, and how, like, how many
pairs of underwear did you bring?
651
:And someone's like, I brought 28,
and someone's like, I brought 19,
652
:and someone's like, I brought 7, and
she's like, what were you hoping for?
653
:He's like, that's living
a little dangerously.
654
:So I think I'm definitely one who
falls into the more packing of
655
:the like undergarment essentials.
656
:Christine: For sure.
657
:And, and to your point about lists, I
am such, I've gotten to be this sort of
658
:like anal when it comes to my, I make a
packing list, I write down everything.
659
:Every little thing.
660
:I swear, I have significantly reduced the
times of me forgetting something because
661
:I, I Don't ignore putting things on the
list, because if, if you don't, you'll,
662
:you'll most likely forget something.
663
:But also planning out my outfits
just so like, I don't have to think
664
:about that when I'm traveling.
665
:, I've already thought out like, oh,
I'm gonna, and it, it doesn't have
666
:to be days of the week, but at least
you have outfits together to know.
667
:That you don't have to worry
about that and it's already taken
668
:care of because you only have so
much room in your, your suitcase.
669
:So, putting, putting the forethought
makes, it all the more ease, easier.
670
:How about some travel, travel tips?
671
:I know I am so, so glad I, my, my dad
recommended us getting this TSA pre check.
672
:If you can.
673
:in my mind a lifesaver it's certainly
a time saver but yeah, if you haven't
674
:considered it, I, I, I'd say take the
time to, it, there is a little bit of an
675
:upfront cost to it but I think, like, once
you do, it pays itself over time, cause
676
:I think it's good for three years, maybe,
maybe more than that I can't remember.
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:Alexandra: I haven't had to re up
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:Christine: I just did last year, so
but they do do a background check.
679
:They take your, like, you know,
they want to make sure you're
680
:not a suspicious character.
681
:But yeah, TSA pre
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:Alexandra: Maybe with my new
name, I probably will have to do a
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:Christine: Oh yeah, that's true.
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:Yeah.
685
:But Alexandra, do you have any other?
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:Alexandra: Yeah, we have a note
here about travel insurance, which
687
:is kind of good if you're thinking
about larger trips, like out of your
688
:country or you know, going for a while.
689
:It's definitely worth it, I think, to
do that for tickets and for airlines.
690
:I don't know that you
can do it for hotels.
691
:But if you're gonna do outdoor excursions
and they offer some sort of travel
692
:insurance like a rain out refund or
something or Refederal I always think
693
:that's kind of valuable because Chrissy
mentioned our trip to the Outer Banks
694
:last summer and We were gonna go see a
reenactment or a production of something
695
:and it was outside and I cannot for
the life of me remember what it was.
696
:But it was starting to rain and
not just rain, but like poor.
697
:So that was one of those things where
we had the insurance on the ticket
698
:and I think we got a full refund.
699
:So that was nice.
700
:We definitely recommend that for Longer
things and having an itinerary of what
701
:you're going to do, like a copy of your
important papers in, in your carry on.
702
:Christine, I know, had mentioned
things like getting the contact info
703
:for the local embassy of wherever
you're going and emergency services.
704
:Just Not because do you think you'll
need them but in case you do and I
705
:feel like it's one of those things
like if You know it if you plan then
706
:you'll never need it kind of thing.
707
:Christine: Exactly.
708
:Alexandra: And I think a big thing is
Leaving room and your itinerary your
709
:schedule for wherever you're going for
spontaneity And I think I really learned
710
:that lesson when Christine and I went
down to New Orleans because I'm so much
711
:I think when we talked about the trip,
I'm somebody who loves to plan, and I
712
:love doing all of the, you know, tours
and the museum trips and everything
713
:and Christine was like, well, we have
to leave time for some flexibility,
714
:so I think we planned for a three day
weekend three or four things that we
715
:said we were going to do, and we had
booked times or reservations, and then
716
:the rest we kind of just left up to
walking around and seeing what happened,
717
:which was I thought it was amazing and
I had a really good time doing that.
718
:So it has now taught me to
leave space in my schedule for
719
:Christine: Yeah.
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:And another thing I was doing
a little research into all you
721
:know, what are the travel tips?
722
:What's traveling like in 2024?
723
:And you know, leaving room for spontaneity
may in the long run, save your wallet
724
:a little bit, because if you do the
upfront costs of all these excursions
725
:and things, once you're there and you're,
Taking the time to discover things that
726
:you might not otherwise have may save
you some, some money in the long run.
727
:So yes, leaving room for spontaneity.
728
:I am a big proponent of that.
729
:A couple of other things to
consider while you're, while
730
:you're looking to travel more.
731
:If price is a factor and you
are trying to figure out how
732
:you're gonna, Swing traveling.
733
:Let ticket prices choose your destination.
734
:Don't get locked in on a place.
735
:See what your budget is.
736
:See what's in that budget and then if
that's a place you've never thought
737
:about going, just give it a go and,
and see see, Where that takes you.
738
:Also, I, you know, a few, gosh, has
it been a month or two since I came?
739
:I forget, when was the
last time I saw you?
740
:Alexandra: March,
741
:Christine: Okay, so just,
742
:so just about a month ago, I went
down to visit Alexandra and her mom,
743
:and I, you know, used, My credit
card points to book took the flight.
744
:So using, using points and miles to
help save money, but also, you know,
745
:feed that desire for travel or, or
some, some of my big, my big tips.
746
:And then one I haven't
done yet, but I want to.
747
:To do more is doing like a house
exchange or there's there's these
748
:sites where depending on like, you can
pick the location you're traveling to
749
:and people, cause I feel like this,
this happens a lot in Europe, people.
750
:Can travel for weeks at a time, and
they're looking for people to either
751
:house sit or watch their, their pets
while they're away and you literally
752
:are given free accommodation for for
your time there to, to simply watch
753
:someone's home or watch someone's cat.
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:So I think that's a really, really clever
755
:Alexandra: and I think there's
an Add a benefit to that, right?
756
:Because then you can go shopping
for you know, what I would call
757
:grocery shopping here in the states
for food and bring it back to where
758
:you're staying and prepare meals.
759
:So you might be saving some costs and
exploring the foods that they have there.
760
:So that's kind of another benefit.
761
:So you're not always having to spend
money on every single meal out or.
762
:Even if breakfast is not is or is not
included in your hotel accommodations
763
:the other thing that I would say is
764
:If you like are someone okay with long
layovers, maybe even extending it longer
765
:than you think Sometimes there's an
option that you could do Like leave, if
766
:you have enough time, leave the airport,
go explore wherever your layover is
767
:and then come back and still check in.
768
:I don't think you can grab your
luggage, but if you've checked it,
769
:just leave it and then come back.
770
:So that's always an option or Hey,
if you don't mind airport, sometimes
771
:I actually don't mind airports.
772
:Give yourself a little extra time to sit
down, stretch your legs particularly if
773
:you're going to have another long leg of
a flight coming up have a, have a meal.
774
:Okay.
775
:That's not in the air.
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:But yeah and what about you,
Christine, do you have any
777
:other last tips before we move
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:Christine: I think the last one, I haven't
figured out how to perfect this, but
779
:some, something I've seen a lot on Tik
or these some, this idea of traveling
780
:during um, shoulder seasons and maximum
781
:and maximizing your PTO.
782
:So shoulder seasons, I was researching.
783
:It's Transcribed It's not, it's
traveling to an area, not during
784
:the high season or off season.
785
:There's a, there's a period of time in
between where, you know, you could still
786
:get the, maybe if you're traveling to
somewhere nice and it's not, it's not
787
:the high season, but it's not quite the
off season where maybe the weather isn't
788
:as nice, but traveling during that.
789
:that time of shoulder season, but
then also maximizing your PTO.
790
:So I've, I've seen this a lot on, on
TikTok and Instagram where choosing
791
:when you take your PTO and sort of book
ending, like holidays or, or, You know,
792
:around Christmas and New Year's, like
if, if your job's already giving you
793
:time off, adding your PTO to around
that time so you are off even longer
794
:you know, I haven't figured out how to
perfect that yet, but I feel like that's
795
:a really clever way to, to maximize that
time and then also give you time to,
796
:to travel to places And actually feel
like you're able to spend time in them.
797
:Because I feel like sometimes
traveling abroad for five
798
:days feels too short to me.
799
:But and then, you know, this last point if
you're able to work remotely, if your job
800
:allows, Then you can work from anywhere.
801
:You can travel to
802
:Spain and, and, and work remotely or
803
:Alexandra: I was actually just
talking to my mother and the
804
:family friends from California.
805
:Their son was younger than I, so he was
going through undergraduate during COVID.
806
:And I guess some of him and
some of his friends decided to
807
:pack their bags, go to Europe.
808
:And since all classes were online,
or you just have to check in, they
809
:ended up doing like six months
in Europe, just moving around and
810
:spending time in different cities.
811
:And they would just, you know, hop
onto class when they needed to.
812
:And I was like, Oh my gosh,
why didn't I think of that?
813
:Cause I'm guessing it probably was
not Any more expensive than paying
814
:for room and board for a term.
815
:So anyways, I thought that was
816
:cool
817
:Christine: pretty, that's pretty epic.
818
:Alexandra: and then the other thing I
would say is like if you're have a long
819
:leg of like a long flight to somewhere
Maybe using the evening hours to try
820
:and get there so you can If you can
sleep on a plane, then you're using
821
:that and maybe get a little rest before
and then hit the ground running to
822
:what you would like to do when you know
you land and it's hopefully daylight.
823
:Christine: Yeah, exactly.
824
:That's a good point.
825
:Alexandra: So,
826
:Christine: That's something I'm,
keeping in mind as we start thinking
827
:about our trip for next year.
828
:So, we'll have to, maybe we'll
share our, as, as we make plans
829
:we'll share our, our, our process.
830
:That
831
:Alexandra: And that might be fun.
832
:Maybe we'll do a podcast abroad,
833
:Christine: would be cool.
834
:Alexandra: an episode on the road.
835
:But since Christine, you definitely have
your finger more on the pulse of social
836
:media, who are some, do you have any
travel influencers or accounts that you
837
:like to follow because of the advice
that they give or destinations they
838
:Christine: Yeah, so the, I'll start
with this one because my friend Tori
839
:introduced me to this, this, I'm
not necessarily a cruise person.
840
:Honestly, the idea of getting on a
massive cruise ship is probably my
841
:nightmare and is not how I want to
travel, but there is, there is one
842
:cruise line that I would consider
traveling with and that's Viking Cruises.
843
:And I love, if you're looking for
some inspiration, There, whoever runs
844
:their social media, they do a good
job because not only is it scenically
845
:beautiful, but their accommodations are.
846
:What I would want out
of a cruise experience.
847
:They're smaller, and because they're
smaller, they're able to get into
848
:areas that the those massive cruise
ships aren't able to go into.
849
:So I would say check out Viking Cruises
if you're interested in doing a cruise.
850
:They do some really clever trips like
through Europe and, and you know,
851
:all over the world, but I would say
check out Viking Cruises, and then I
852
:recently came across this this girl.
853
:Her name's Maddy Smith.
854
:Her, her handle is On The Moo
with Mad, and she has this awesome
855
:series called Out and Back.
856
:She's located she lives in D.
857
:C.
858
:and she does these, these, these, Mini
trips where she travels to a location
859
:for a day, for just one day, whether
that's she takes a plane or she takes
860
:a train or she, or she drives and you
basically follow along on day in the
861
:life, essentially of her, of her day.
862
:For of her traveling to all
these different locations.
863
:And I think that's so clever.
864
:It's like, if you're able, if
you're able to, to, to travel
865
:like that, I'd say, give it a try.
866
:It's definitely a way to feed that
desire, that wanderlust and to see
867
:parts of where you live that you
might not otherwise get to see.
868
:So.
869
:Alexandra: I think he sent me one of
her videos and they went down to Florida
870
:for a day and I was like, Hey, you know,
I'm just thinking, maybe Christina,
871
:you and I should try and do that.
872
:Like to go to Savannah or somewhere
else that we, we both want to hit
873
:and just go, Hey, let's meet here
874
:Christine: Yeah, totally.
875
:I, I would definitely, it's, it's
just rethinking how it's a, it's a,
876
:it's a different take on travel that I
don't think a lot of people consider.
877
:It's like, you can just, you can do a
day trip and it be a travel experience,
878
:which I think is so important.
879
:Approachable, I think people who
might not be able to, one, commit
880
:or maybe afford to do a week long
vacation, like, travel vacation.
881
:So, check her out.
882
:I, I, I really like her a lot.
883
:And then the last one I, I, I found
this group called well and good on
884
:Instagram year and a half, two years ago.
885
:And they've since grown their their brand.
886
:And they also have, they have an
account called well and good travels,
887
:which if you're looking for more
inspiration, I would say, check them out.
888
:They, they've got some
good recommendations.
889
:yeah, so those are just a
couple that have come to mind.
890
:There are many out there but I, I would
say, yeah, those are my top three.
891
:Alexandra: All right.
892
:So if any of our listeners, do you have
any people or accounts that you follow
893
:with great advice or cool trip ideas?
894
:Definitely give us a shout and
let us know cause we would love
895
:to share that information as well.
896
:All right.
897
:Moving into our last section for today,
Christine, if you or I, or we were
898
:to move abroad, why haven't we yet?
899
:What's stopping us?
900
:Christine: Well, actually, I've
considered this a lot within
901
:the last year, I would say.
902
:I, when I left my last job, I
definitely was like, Maybe I'll
903
:just move abroad and work abroad.
904
:So it's definitely not off the table.
905
:It's something I, I would love to do.
906
:Why haven't I or what's stopping?
907
:I would say it's, I don't know if it's
just because we're here in the States.
908
:It's not as easy of a process if
I was already living in Europe, or
909
:I don't know, what do you think?
910
:I, I would love to do it,
911
:but it's, it's
912
:Alexandra: I was thinking too, like
some of the paperwork that you'd have
913
:to get in line to do that and are
finding a job to support you over there.
914
:And, you know, that's kind
of the difference, right?
915
:Are you going to go and find a job?
916
:Are you going to find a
job there and then go?
917
:Or do you have a job here that you can
be, you know, basically located in another
918
:part of the world at a different office?
919
:And I think some of that might be ease
up some of the paperwork process because
920
:they, the company might then help you
with your visa application or allow you to
921
:apply for a visa to live and work abroad.
922
:So I definitely think
that is a bit daunting.
923
:I don't think it's impossible.
924
:It just right now that thinking about
it causes me a major amount of stress
925
:of just like, Oh my gosh, the paperwork.
926
:And having just been through a
name change, I'm like, I don't
927
:know that I can just, okay, no
more paperwork for a little while.
928
:Please, please, no
929
:Christine: you do so much already, friend.
930
:Alexandra: But like, Christina,
it's not off the table in terms
931
:of like, I would love to do it.
932
:And I think some of what holds
me back is the, is a little bit
933
:of fear and insecurity of like,
what if it doesn't work out?
934
:Knowing that I can come back,
you know, and make it work.
935
:But like, I'm not somebody who
loves to fail at doing things.
936
:So I'm trying not to let
that stop me from trying.
937
:But yeah, it's like, what if, what if
I make it there and I don't like it?
938
:I'm somebody who is not so great with the
buildup to change, but then once change
939
:happens, I'm like, all right, fine.
940
:I'm here.
941
:Might
942
:as well.
943
:Christine: you just get dragged
944
:Alexandra: it's like,
945
:Christine: but once it's there,
946
:Alexandra: yeah.
947
:yeah.
948
:Then I'm like, Oh, fine.
949
:Okay.
950
:Here.
951
:What was all the fuss about?
952
:So yeah, I think, I think it's something
I'd also want to do with my person.
953
:Not that it wouldn't be cool to live
in a different country on my own, but
954
:I would want to go, I think with either
a friend or a romantic partner as we've
955
:talked about in this, the show that I
would like to meet him soon, you know,
956
:Hey universe, if you would like to
plot me in his path, that'd be great.
957
:But to have somebody to also.
958
:Build on an experience
with, I think it'd be
959
:Christine: Yeah, I agree.
960
:I
961
:think that's something
that holds me back, too.
962
:Not, not, not because I feel like I need
to travel with someone, but that's really
963
:putting me out of my comfort zone and
964
:plopping me, yeah, plopping me
in a place where I don't know
965
:anybody, and I have, you know, I'm
learning a new job or a new culture.
966
:Yeah.
967
:new language.
968
:So I won't say that's holding me back and
will keep me from doing it, but that's
969
:definitely a a factor for me that I, I've
970
:sort of
971
:have to push myself past.
972
:Alexandra: hmm.
973
:And I think part of it,
too, is the expense, right?
974
:The
975
:expense of
976
:Christine: It's, expensive.
977
:The
978
:Alexandra: because even to move within,
The same state here, it can be expensive,
979
:so the thought of moving not only
abroad but getting your stuff there or
980
:having to buy stuff for, to furnish an
apartment or a living space the cost
981
:of just traveling there I mean, I think
that can also be very daunting for
982
:Christine: Which is why
if you find a job that.
983
:Alexandra: might help
984
:Christine: Will help re with
relocation or, you know,
985
:setting you up in a furnished
apartment, like things like that.
986
:That's a really lucky
situation to find yourself in.
987
:So I understand that that's not
the, the case for everybody.
988
:But you know.
989
:It's a beautiful thing to
think about in, in, in theory.
990
:So making it a reality
would be wonderful, but
991
:Alexandra: Yeah.
992
:So, okay.
993
:Pick of your places.
994
:The world is your oyster.
995
:If you could live abroad and
move abroad, where would you go?
996
:Mm
997
:Christine: So we've talked about this.
998
:I desperately wish I was somebody
who could pick up languages easily.
999
:So I feel at this point in my
life, I'd have to be in an English
:
00:53:36,645 --> 00:53:38,575
speaking country just because.
:
00:53:38,595 --> 00:53:42,565
I wish I could pick up languages
more easily, but if that wasn't a
:
00:53:42,565 --> 00:53:44,675
factor I probably live in Italy.
:
00:53:44,825 --> 00:53:46,075
Honestly, I, I'm,
:
00:53:46,165 --> 00:53:48,575
I'm currently practicing my Italian again.
:
00:53:48,585 --> 00:53:53,345
You know, I think the key, the key
to, you know, becoming fluent in any
:
00:53:53,345 --> 00:53:55,555
language is immersing yourself in it.
:
00:53:55,575 --> 00:53:58,830
And, you know, Having
conversations in, in that language.
:
00:53:58,913 --> 00:54:00,383
Alexandra: And consistency and use,
:
00:54:00,433 --> 00:54:01,313
Christine: exactly.
:
00:54:01,343 --> 00:54:03,333
So I, I would love to live in Italy.
:
00:54:03,613 --> 00:54:08,695
I would, I would say, any finding
a, the, the, like a post in, in a
:
00:54:08,695 --> 00:54:13,715
European country, just so that I would
be able to easily travel to different
:
00:54:13,765 --> 00:54:14,315
countries.
:
00:54:14,675 --> 00:54:19,325
So whether that's England or I guess
England would probably be the, the
:
00:54:19,425 --> 00:54:25,105
main one because one I'd be able to
understand the language easily and I could
:
00:54:25,125 --> 00:54:27,176
easily travel throughout all of Europe.
:
00:54:27,246 --> 00:54:30,136
But I, I think the dream
would be Italy for me.
:
00:54:30,246 --> 00:54:30,506
Alexandra: Very
:
00:54:30,506 --> 00:54:30,826
cool.
:
00:54:31,526 --> 00:54:33,516
Similar for practicality purposes.
:
00:54:33,516 --> 00:54:36,875
And I think I would, if going
solely in practicality, I'd probably
:
00:54:36,875 --> 00:54:38,175
pick an English speaking country.
:
00:54:38,175 --> 00:54:43,115
So either like England or Scotland or
something kind of in the British Isles.
:
00:54:43,407 --> 00:54:45,937
Also to the point that you
made, because it would be.
:
00:54:46,752 --> 00:54:50,982
Much easier to travel to other European
countries, which is where I want to do
:
00:54:50,982 --> 00:54:55,612
a lot of my traveling So I'm sure in
terms of time and expense it is It's
:
00:54:55,622 --> 00:54:59,332
much simpler to travel from England
as compared to coming from the States.
:
00:54:59,932 --> 00:55:05,152
A little bit on the practicality side,
but also because I would want to, Canada.
:
00:55:05,212 --> 00:55:07,072
I'd love to live in the Quebec region.
:
00:55:07,372 --> 00:55:10,112
So where they speak more, I think
predominantly French, but there's
:
00:55:10,112 --> 00:55:11,422
also a lot of English speaking.
:
00:55:11,702 --> 00:55:14,433
So I could practice French, even
though it'd be more Quebecois
:
00:55:15,053 --> 00:55:16,453
type French than like Canada.
:
00:55:16,963 --> 00:55:17,793
Parisian French.
:
00:55:18,163 --> 00:55:22,423
And so I think they use slightly
different words and slang, just
:
00:55:22,423 --> 00:55:26,153
how English is different depending
on the country that you're in.
:
00:55:26,700 --> 00:55:27,950
So I think that would be really fun.
:
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:32,390
Plus also easy to come back to the
States and travel where I'd like to here.
:
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:34,520
So that's kind of the benefit of that.
:
00:55:34,530 --> 00:55:39,360
But if I were to push myself and really
to just fully immerse would be somewhere
:
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:41,740
in France to kind of get back that.
:
00:55:42,010 --> 00:55:45,100
Fluency I used to have and, or Germany.
:
00:55:45,180 --> 00:55:48,480
I would really like to learn German
and to really learn a new language.
:
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:51,150
So because I, I, I do.
:
00:55:51,805 --> 00:55:55,385
enjoy learning languages and I
can pick up things pretty well.
:
00:55:55,455 --> 00:55:57,635
And right now it's just having the time.
:
00:55:58,235 --> 00:56:01,655
Sometimes Duolingo shouts at me
going, Hey, don't forget your lesson.
:
00:56:02,385 --> 00:56:03,195
I'm like, I'm sorry.
:
00:56:03,195 --> 00:56:03,595
I'm sorry.
:
00:56:03,595 --> 00:56:04,005
I'm trying.
:
00:56:04,005 --> 00:56:04,535
I'm getting there.
:
00:56:05,195 --> 00:56:09,705
But yes, as you can tell, both Christine
are already preparing for::
00:56:10,165 --> 00:56:14,265
so we will keep you updated on our
progress in both the language and our
:
00:56:14,410 --> 00:56:17,790
Christine: I, yeah, I will say I am
pleasantly surprised at how, when
:
00:56:17,790 --> 00:56:22,960
I started practicing Italian again,
how much came back to me from, I
:
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:31,730
mean, I, I studied it for six, six to
eight years and picking it up again.
:
00:56:32,365 --> 00:56:36,195
I, I'm pleasantly surprised and I
feel like, you know, I was always
:
00:56:36,195 --> 00:56:40,525
very timid with speaking, but you
know, at my current job, I've got,
:
00:56:40,655 --> 00:56:46,455
I'm surrounded by people who speak
Italian, who speak Spanish and English.
:
00:56:46,825 --> 00:56:51,315
So, it's really a wonderful
environment to immerse myself in,
:
00:56:51,365 --> 00:56:53,285
in all three of those languages.
:
00:56:53,375 --> 00:56:58,710
I will say, like, I don't know if
others Will agree with me on this, but
:
00:56:58,710 --> 00:57:03,410
I feel like because English is my first
language, it's made learning other
:
00:57:03,410 --> 00:57:08,544
languages difficult because English
is so different, like there's so many
:
00:57:08,544 --> 00:57:11,694
exceptions to the rule when it comes to
English and, and well, at least when it
:
00:57:11,694 --> 00:57:16,164
comes to the romance languages, I feel
like if, if you were a native Spanish
:
00:57:16,164 --> 00:57:21,947
speaker, maybe picking up Italian
would be simpler, but I could be wrong.
:
00:57:22,007 --> 00:57:22,417
And.
:
00:57:22,482 --> 00:57:23,382
Correct me
:
00:57:23,382 --> 00:57:23,862
if I'm
:
00:57:24,082 --> 00:57:26,935
Alexandra: I mean, I think what
the Italian the Romance languages
:
00:57:26,935 --> 00:57:28,685
are French, Italian, Spanish.
:
00:57:29,085 --> 00:57:32,445
I think Romanian is also
classified as a Romance language.
:
00:57:32,515 --> 00:57:34,285
And Catalan I think that's it.
:
00:57:34,745 --> 00:57:37,905
It's the, what they speak in
the Catalonian region of Spain.
:
00:57:37,905 --> 00:57:41,145
So it's a mix of Spanish and French.
:
00:57:41,505 --> 00:57:44,225
So I'd love to learn
that, but you're so right.
:
00:57:44,225 --> 00:57:44,505
I think.
:
00:57:45,820 --> 00:57:50,370
I think English can be a difficult
language to learn because every rule
:
00:57:50,370 --> 00:57:53,360
that we have, many others break it.
:
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:56,960
You know, it's like, I'm thinking
of like all the silly rules of,
:
00:57:57,240 --> 00:58:01,930
you know I before E except after C,
except for in a bunch of these words.
:
00:58:02,535 --> 00:58:05,745
And so there's just a little
inconsistency, but I think that
:
00:58:05,745 --> 00:58:09,535
really has to do with for lack of
a better term, English is a very
:
00:58:10,005 --> 00:58:13,545
bastardized language of so many others.
:
00:58:13,545 --> 00:58:17,275
It's like we chop up parts of German
and parts of Latin and then there's
:
00:58:17,285 --> 00:58:22,965
French and, you know, so it's, it's
just an amalgamation of different things
:
00:58:22,965 --> 00:58:25,585
that kind of worked weirdly together.
:
00:58:25,905 --> 00:58:29,265
And I don't know that it has
totally worked, so, know.
:
00:58:29,835 --> 00:58:30,855
Christine: Oh, fun fact.
:
00:58:30,855 --> 00:58:33,285
Before we leave our topic on languages.
:
00:58:33,525 --> 00:58:38,175
So the other day, this past week
practicing my Italian, I, you know,
:
00:58:38,175 --> 00:58:41,445
they're slowly introducing different
countries or different cities.
:
00:58:41,445 --> 00:58:46,850
In Italian, I learned
what German is in Italian.
:
00:58:47,279 --> 00:58:51,059
Alexandra: Okay, can I say what it is in
French and see if it's anywhere close?
:
00:58:51,289 --> 00:58:54,479
Okay, so Germany in French is Allemagne.
:
00:58:55,049 --> 00:58:56,549
Is it any close to Italian?
:
00:58:57,099 --> 00:58:57,749
No, it's a bit
:
00:58:57,764 --> 00:58:58,204
Christine: it's different.
:
00:58:58,224 --> 00:59:02,624
So, So, for example, German
came up, Switzerland's come up
:
00:59:02,914 --> 00:59:08,454
London has come up, like, okay,
Londra is, is London in Italian,
:
00:59:08,684 --> 00:59:11,984
Svizzera is Switzerland in Italian,
:
00:59:12,343 --> 00:59:12,491
Alexandra: I like
:
00:59:12,856 --> 00:59:14,526
Christine: Tedesco, is German.
:
00:59:14,776 --> 00:59:15,366
Alexandra: Tedesco.
:
00:59:15,606 --> 00:59:19,816
I'm sorry, isn't, why do I
feel like Tedesco is a a grocer
:
00:59:20,611 --> 00:59:21,301
Christine: Tesco.
:
00:59:21,711 --> 00:59:22,081
Tesco.
:
00:59:22,796 --> 00:59:23,056
Alexandra: Tesco.
:
00:59:23,086 --> 00:59:23,206
Okay.
:
00:59:24,086 --> 00:59:25,976
I was like, that sounds vaguely familiar.
:
00:59:26,311 --> 00:59:27,371
Christine: And I'm just gonna double
:
00:59:27,371 --> 00:59:28,381
check that I'm right.
:
00:59:28,431 --> 00:59:29,821
But I'm pretty sure that's correct.
:
00:59:30,161 --> 00:59:32,654
German in Italian.
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Alexandra: Yeah, it's kind of
interesting that we don't call
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countries by the name of the country.
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That that country is called
in its native language.
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I find that so
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Christine: Yeah.
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Tedesco.
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T E D E S C O is German in Italian.
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Which I, it's, it's
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Alexandra: You learn something new
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Christine: I was like,
that's so interesting.
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Yeah, because this week's
lessons were around languages,
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so, so Svizzera Tedesco, German
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Alexandra: Oh, the
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Christine: yeah,
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correct, the
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languages, sorry,
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clarifying that.
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Alexandra: what's the country called?
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Christine: the country called?
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Let's see.
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It might be German, Germania,
too Italian, Germania.
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Germania.
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Germania.
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But, but German, the
German language is Tedesco.
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Alexandra: Interesting.
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That would not be intuitively
what I would have gone
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Christine: no, same.
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Anyway.
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Oh, around.
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Alexandra: So now that we've gone on
that fun little rabbit hole of languages
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and what we would learn if we were
to move, move to a different country.
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Do you have any last thoughts
on the topic of moving abroad?
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If we were to do that,
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Christine: I think, you know, when
thinking about how I would support,
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like what sort of job I would take
abroad or how I'd support myself,
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I've had, I've had many interests and
my background is sort of, I I have.
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01:00:54,119 --> 01:00:59,419
Education in the sound
production and editing worlds.
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But a lot of my professional experience
since college has been in the events
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world, like large scale events.
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01:01:07,519 --> 01:01:12,459
And I have, you know, the, these
interest in like hospitality and.
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Interior design.
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01:01:13,779 --> 01:01:19,816
So if I were to think about what sort
of job I would want to have abroad,
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it might be in the hospitality sphere.
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I don't know.
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01:01:23,566 --> 01:01:25,466
Have you thought about
that at all, Alexandra Lee?
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01:01:25,466 --> 01:01:28,146
What would, what sort of
work would you do abroad?
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01:01:29,562 --> 01:01:34,622
Cause I, I think like the idea of living
abroad is appealing, but you know,
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01:01:34,622 --> 01:01:39,062
like I've, because I was really
considering like, Oh, if I were going to
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01:01:39,362 --> 01:01:41,382
do this, what, how would I support myself?
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01:01:41,422 --> 01:01:42,592
What would I do?
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So I was wondering if you thought
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Alexandra: I don't know.
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01:01:45,277 --> 01:01:46,817
I find it hard to answer that question.
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01:01:47,377 --> 01:01:51,997
A lot of, as you said, professional
experiences in higher education, which I
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01:01:51,997 --> 01:01:56,107
don't know that I would want to stay in
if I were to move abroad enjoy business.
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01:01:56,207 --> 01:02:00,867
So something within that sphere, maybe
marketing would be kind of interesting.
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01:02:01,437 --> 01:02:05,137
But I don't know that we've really
talked about it on this podcast, but I'm
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01:02:05,287 --> 01:02:06,967
really trying to pursue my own business.
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So would definitely involve being fluent.
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If not almost like a native
speaker in another language to do
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01:02:14,713 --> 01:02:16,843
that kind of work somewhere else.
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01:02:17,243 --> 01:02:20,963
So I don't know, potential
for the future, we'll see.
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I'll keep you updated on
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01:02:22,678 --> 01:02:22,918
my
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Christine: on that.
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01:02:23,328 --> 01:02:23,718
Yeah,
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01:02:23,938 --> 01:02:24,338
Alexandra: French.
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01:02:25,158 --> 01:02:29,228
Christine: but, but those listening,
have you thought about like moving
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01:02:29,228 --> 01:02:30,978
abroad and living and working?
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01:02:31,558 --> 01:02:32,728
If so, have you done it?
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01:02:33,238 --> 01:02:35,038
Or what's holding you back?
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01:02:35,068 --> 01:02:38,808
Or have you thought about how would
you make that happen for yourself?
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01:02:38,898 --> 01:02:40,998
Because we'd love some advice.
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01:02:41,018 --> 01:02:44,308
Alexandra: And if you haven't
done it, what, what can you share
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01:02:44,308 --> 01:02:47,228
with us your experiences so that
others who are interested can
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01:02:47,238 --> 01:02:48,828
also learn from what you've done?
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01:02:49,188 --> 01:02:53,888
I'd love to see that kind of, again,
creating that community who is supportive
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01:02:54,308 --> 01:02:58,598
of each other and helpful in any aspect
from whatever we've talked about.
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01:02:59,593 --> 01:03:00,993
Christine: Yeah, absolutely.
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01:03:01,743 --> 01:03:02,113
Alexandra: Alright.
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01:03:02,443 --> 01:03:06,356
Christine: Alrighty, well, as we wrap
up today's episode, we've journeyed
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01:03:06,356 --> 01:03:11,276
through tales of wanderlust, shared
memories of past adventures, and dreamed
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01:03:11,276 --> 01:03:13,716
of destinations yet to be explored.
:
01:03:14,086 --> 01:03:17,386
From insider travel tips to
exhilarating prospects of living
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01:03:17,386 --> 01:03:20,986
abroad, our conversation has been
a passport to new perspectives.
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01:03:21,536 --> 01:03:25,066
Remember, whether you're exploring
the cobblestone streets of a historic
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01:03:25,066 --> 01:03:29,606
city or hiking through the wilderness
of a far off land, each journey holds
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01:03:29,606 --> 01:03:31,446
the promise of discovery and growth.
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01:03:32,416 --> 01:03:36,357
So, as you embark on your next
adventure, may your travels be
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01:03:36,357 --> 01:03:39,687
filled with unforgettable moments
and enriching experiences.
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01:03:40,237 --> 01:03:43,787
Thank you for joining us on this
expedition through the world of travel.
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01:03:43,827 --> 01:03:48,797
Until next time, keep exploring, stay
curious, and let the journey continue.
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