The magical, the mystical, the woo of it all!

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Hello, and welcome to The Mirror Project.

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We are your hosts, Christine,

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And Alexandra.

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Christine: and we are so

glad you're joining us.

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Today we invite you to join us on a

journey through the enchanting realms of

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spirituality, witchcraft, and metaphysics.

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We'll share our personal stories of how

we discover these fascinating topics,

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and dispel some common misconceptions.

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Whether you're curious about the basics

of astrology, the healing power of

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crystals, or the insights of tarot and

other card readings, this episode promises

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a fun, light, and mystical experience.

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So get comfy.

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Open your mind and let's

dive into the magic together.

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Alexandra: Before we delve into today's

riveting topic, make sure to hit that

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Trust us.

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We're not getting started without you.

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Let's make this journey together.

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Christine: This is quite a vast topic

we're tackling today but I think

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our general goal is to sort of just

start an introduction to this and

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what better way to do that than sort

of start talking about our personal

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journeys and our interests related

to all these different things.

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So, Alexandra, why don't you sort

of give us, An idea of what sort

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of falls under the umbrella of the

topics we'll be discussing today.

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Alexandra: Oh, well,

obviously so many, right?

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Like just within

spirituality and metaphysics.

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Okay.

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So spirituality can include anything

from different walks of belief systems,

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but also meditation, mindfulness, things

to energy work, spiritual healing.

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I was kind of covered under that umbrella,

which I think we've done a really good

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job of kind of briefly touching throughout

us doing this podcast since February.

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I mean, even from our mantras and sayings

episode to, oh gosh, many of that.

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I mean, even last week when we talked

about music and its ability to manifest

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things, if that's You know, so we

do a good job of touching on that.

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Witchy stuff is very kind of a fun word.

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I love that.

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Just witchy.

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I'm very witchy.

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Anyways, but witchcraft

Wicca, two different things.

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Witchcraft is the practice of

magic and Wicca is a belief

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system, a belief a faith.

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So many Wiccans practice witchcraft,

but they can be very much separated out.

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Magic, divination which can be things

like card reading tassomancy, geomancy,

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like any of the mancies, lack of a

better word can be under divination.

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Uh, Herbalism, rituals, celebrating

sabbats, all that kind of

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things fall under divination.

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kind of that broad umbrella.

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And then of course, you know,

I've mentioned before paganism.

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I mean, there's different polytheistic

traditions from Hellenic pagans.

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So more of those who believe

in the Greco Roman pantheons,

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Saxon pagans, Celtic Nordic.

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I mean, so many as well as that come

out of Africa and I mean, South America.

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So there's many different Beliefs and

the benefit I think of neo paganism.

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So more of like modern day is you

don't necessarily have to grow up in

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a tradition to follow that tradition.

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So I mean, like including things

like ancestral veneration,

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which not everyone does seasonal

festivals the wheel of the year.

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individual and eclectic practices by

borrowing, creating your own combination

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of, and then of course, metaphysics.

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So philosophical inquiry, law of

attraction and manifestation using

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crystals and gemstones to enhance your

practice and work to astrology and

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psychic abilities, which all, I think

all of these at some point kind of just

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a hodgepodge together at least for me.

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So that's just a brief.

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But not so brief touching on what

is even under some of this umbrella.

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And I'm know that there's

more I haven't even covered.

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So I'm sure if some of our listeners

out there are also interested in

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stuff, they could totally add into this

list of what's under this umbrella.

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Christine: I mean, if we really

think about it, this whole topic

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could be its own podcast all on

its own because there's so much to

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sort of decipher and learn about.

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And at the end, we're going

to share some great resources.

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And both Alexander and I listen to a

podcast that I think we both highly

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recommend that sort of just give a nice

sort of look into this whole world.

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If you are curious about

learning more about it all.

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Alexandra: I know that we've,

Definitely mentioned it on the podcast.

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I think when I

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during our Q and a, I

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Christine: Yes.

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Yes.

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Definitely.

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So we'll remind you all of that later.

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All right, thank you for giving

that great quick summary of what's

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falling under this discussion today.

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So I think a great way to, a great

place to start is share how we

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became interested in these topics.

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I know, Alexandra, you, you've had you've

been on this journey a lot longer than

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I have and have introduced me to a lot.

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So I'd love for you to kick

us off and share your story.

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Alexandra: sure.

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Okay.

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So I don't know if I've mentioned

it on this podcast, but if I have

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just bear with me and I repeat.

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Christine: It's a good reminder.

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Alexandra: So I began

my journey when I was.

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I want to say around 15 years old

and, but probably even before that,

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because I remember sitting in Sunday

school, asking the Sunday school

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teacher if there's father, the God,

where's mother earth or the mother?

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And she was like, Oh no,

we don't do that here.

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And I must've been really

small to be in Sunday school.

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And so at that point we were going

to a Lutheran church because my

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mom was raised Roman Catholic.

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My dad was raised Southern Baptist,

neither wanted me to be the other.

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So they ended up baptizing me Lutheran

cause you know, that made sense.

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And

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So then after that whole conversation,

I ended up just going to church and

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sitting in church with my parents on

Sundays, never feeling really connected

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and going, this doesn't make sense.

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This doesn't feel right for

me, which is the benefit of.

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I don't know, living today.

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We can have a lot more freedom of choice

when it comes to choosing how we believe.

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And what we believe.

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And at some point we stopped going.

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I don't really know why, but

it just never felt right to me.

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And so then when I was like my

angsty young teenager self, I,

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Christine: As we all are

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at some point.

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Alexandra: right.

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I met my godmother's daughter who had

kind of introduced me to a metaphysical

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shop, which I haven't been to since I've

lived in California, but it was my like

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first introduction into metaphysics.

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And that was really.

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Very pivotal for me.

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I actually wear a pentacle pendant

that I got when I was a teenager.

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Actually, this might be a replacement,

but it's the same one that her daughter

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was wearing because the symbol and the

imagery was just so clean and elegant

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to me that it was it felt right.

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And so my introduction really

began mostly with Tarot because

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I was really interested in it.

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And I know I've mentioned, I think I've

mentioned previously on this podcast

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that I got into it, but then fell out

because it was difficult in the sense

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that it was a lot of cards to learn

the meaning and never, and feeling

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very, you know, insecure and like that

I could ever do something like this.

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And so I ended up putting,

figuring out that wasn't Christian

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and paganism just made the most

sense, felt the most right to me.

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So I was like, okay, this is me, but

I never really did anything with it

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beyond you know, identifying like

this is more of what I believe.

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And so when I went off to college,

I thought I would be a bit more

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open to exploring and I just dove

headfirst into college activities and

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finishing out, you know, my degree.

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So then again, got put on the back burner

and I would read and study along the way,

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still kind of keeping up my interest, but

never really diving feet first into it

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until I met a group when I moved down to

North Carolina with who reintroduced me

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to a lot and just started my exploration.

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So that's really how I started.

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I started mostly with tarot and, the Greek

pantheon and going, okay, traditions and

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paganism and an interest in witchcraft,

but not really taking it further.

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So Christine, after, since

I've shared now, how about you

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Christine: Oh,

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Alexandra: how did you get

interested in this realm of topics?

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Christine: Okay, so I mentioned

this several times but I'll

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bring it up here again since

it is where I start my journey.

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I grew up Catholic.

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I went to Catholic elementary

school, middle school, high

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school, and where Alexandra and

I met was a Catholic university.

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Was surrounded by Catholicism.

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I was raised that way.

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And as I started to get older, I

was questioning a lot of the things

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I was being taught and actually

thinking back on it, I was questioning

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things at a really early age.

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Like I think maybe, I don't know

however old you are in second grade,

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which is I think six or seven.

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And That's when in the Catholic faith you

go through the sacrament of communion.

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So I started to question things, but never

really thought much of it as I, when I was

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younger, because that was my environment.

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I was surrounded by it.

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We went to church every Saturday.

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My.

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Mother and my father, but I think my

mother when we were kids was really

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sort of the steward of our faith for

me and my, for me and my two sisters.

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but something never felt right, but there

was things that I did enjoy about it.

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Like I enjoyed learning about Mary,

angels, certain saints and their story and

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their journey and the sacrifices that they

made for something bigger than themselves.

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Like that to me was so inspiring and

confounding at the same time because it,

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you know, as a kid, you're like, it's

hard to imagine something bigger than,

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You know, you're the world around you.

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But anyway, once I started college again,

another Catholic institution, but that

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was really where my world expanded because

even though it was a Catholic university

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it was still liberal arts school.

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So there were many people from

all sorts of walks of life

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that I started to get to meet.

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That's where we met.

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And when you came into my life, that's

really when I, you know, Sort of

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began to discover a whole new world.

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When I began to discover a whole new

world of spirituality, essentially that

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didn't really need to be dependent on any.

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Faith institution, shall we say, because

I discovered that there were a lot of

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things that I didn't really vibe with

when it came to the Catholic church as

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an institution, I think, you know, like

anything when things start out with

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the best of intentions, well, you know,

things evolve and change over time.

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Anyway, that's a whole

nother conversation.

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Alexandra: What did I say

about that road to hell?

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Christine: exactly.

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So college was really the first time I

was able to start letting go of the parts

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of myself that were no longer serving

me and that I was holding on to because

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I thought I was supposed to, to to be a

good person and to, I don't know, I just,

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that's what I was raised to believe.

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And as our friendship grew.

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think we were able to learn

from each other and are on a

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parallel spiritual journey.

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There's certain things we learn are

learning with together, but also

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we're experiencing things differently

and I just love how we can come

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together and talk about that.

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So yeah, I, from there, Alexandra

introduced me, I think to

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sort of go into this next.

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This part of the question, which is our

first experiences around metaphysics

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and which he practices back in 2020 is

when I first decided I want to sort of

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delve deeper into this because after

college, there was and I, and my first

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year of working, there was a pretty major.

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Thing that happened in my life

that left me questioning a lot.

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And I found that I didn't find comfort

in my faith and spirituality anymore.

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So I was floating kind of floating

aimlessly for a while, but because

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I was just out of college, starting

a new job focused on friends and.

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You know, being an adult in the

real world, I was able to distract

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myself really easily, but cut to

: 2020

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We all have a lot of

extra time on our hands.

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So I, it was a perfect opportunity

for me to Finally figure out, okay,

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I don't want to feel lost anymore.

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I don't want to feel

like I'm floating around.

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So like, where do you want to

begin Christine in terms of finding

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some sort of spiritual connection?

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Cause I've always felt very

connected to spiritual, like a

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spiritual source in some capacity.

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I just knew that it wasn't.

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Catholicism anymore.

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So I turned to you and I was like,

Alexandra, I want to learn about tarot.

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And she was like, Oh my gosh, yay.

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Let's get started.

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And we started setting up little

Shall we call them tarot dates

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where we talked on the phone or did

FaceTime and she was really great.

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She gave me great information

in terms of where to start in

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terms of understanding tarot.

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So that's kind of what's started,

which was sort of like the jumping off

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point for this whole journey for me.

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And it's only grown from there.

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I'll stop talking now, but,

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that just sort of led into, you know,

curiosity about crystals and a newfound

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desire to learn about astrology.

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I then found a connection

to Oracle readings.

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So it was a perfect opportunity that

I was glad to sort of latch on to at a

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time when I found I really needed it.

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So

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Alexandra: I'm glad to

have shared my first

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Christine: Yes.

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Alexandra: and how that, and have

that be one of your starting points as

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Christine: Yes, definitely.

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Alexandra: You know, it's funny you

saying that I remember the metaphysical

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shop I went to in California.

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I can still picture walking in there

and I had my first reading with a

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psychic medium when I was probably

15 and he was incredible, but he had

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told me to get a goddess figuring

candle and put some of this power

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oil and some herbs and stuff on it.

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I have had that candle.

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Since I was 15 and not even kidding you.

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I think I finally burned

that candle maybe in January

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Christine: Oh, wow.

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Alexandra: So that's been through three

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moves with

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Christine: why did you wait?

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Do you, you know,

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why

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Alexandra: Yeah, I was in my own way.

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I mean,

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Christine: can relate?

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Alexandra: happy to delve

into this as we continue this

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conversation, but it's

one of those things that

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I think we become ready for things

when we're ready for it, whether

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you want to call it divine timing,

confirmation bias, just whatever.

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I was not ready to burn.

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It was not ready to deal with it.

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Didn't want to.

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And then finally, I'm at a

point in my life where I've

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been working on myself with.

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All of this realm, but also as I've

mentioned on this podcast before therapy.

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So I was finally in the right place to

say, okay, I'm done hoping for I'm done

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wishing for I'm going to make something

happen with my life by taking action.

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And then part of that action

was actually burning that candle

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Christine: Right.

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Sure.

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Alexandra: and the oil and the things

that he had suggested when I was 15.

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So this was over a decade ago.

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So this is by note, I will say

if people are interested in this.

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this.

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is not unlike Catholicism or other

major monotheistic practices.

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It's a journey.

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It's a long time.

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I don't know.

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Commitment in a way.

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It's definitely not something

like snap and you're,

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you know, you're there

which I think too much.

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My disappointment when it's certainly

when it comes to learning about things,

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I'm like, I want to learn it all.

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And I want to know it

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Christine: Yes.

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Alexandra: So it's

something that unfolds over

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Christine: yeah, definitely.

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And it has, it ebbs and flows.

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Like I would say I've been sort of

stalled a little bit for lack of a

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better term, I guess, in my current

journey, but you know, it's definitely

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something that's always with me.

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And I feel like.

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I just really appreciated that I was

able to take the power back, you know,

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because I think for me when I was growing

up I never really saw my faith as mine.

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If that makes sense, it

was my family's faith.

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It was how I grew up but

it wasn't necessarily mine.

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When I was able to realize that

was okay and that I wasn't going

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to burn in hell for it, it

would just was very empowering.

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And, you know, ultimately I found that

my connection to nature and the spiritual

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world was, it was very intertwined.

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And I look forward to diving more into

that throughout this conversation, but why

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don't we Talk a little bit about I think

Alexandra you're the perfect person for

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this and sort of give us a little insight

into what are some common misconceptions

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about metaphysical practices and

like how do you address skepticism or

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misunderstanding from other people?

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Alexandra: Well, I know we've

definitely talked about that

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recently on our what is dating episode.

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Okay.

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So some common misconceptions if you're

wear a pentacle or a pentagram, which

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is an inverse version of the pentacle.

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So where the fifth point is at the

bottom, neither are an evil symbol.

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I will say that neither are an evil

symbol, they both have different

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functions within witchcraft.

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A pentagram where more commonly

where the point is facing down can

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be a very grounding bringing energy

back into the ground to purify

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like dispelling excess energy.

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pentacles with the point upright,

very much a symbol of protection.

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There's even a way to draw

the pentacle and the circle

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without, with only one point.

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And that kind of comes to the idea

of only having one point of weakness

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in something when you draw it,

whether it's physical protection.

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So I would just say that's the big thing.

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Also, don't ask people with a five pointed

star if they're Jewish, I feel like

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that's just count the, know the points.

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It's simple.

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I mean, honestly, people

who practice witchcraft has

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nothing to do with Satanism.

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That's a big one I've

encountered personally.

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I had so many friends in high school who

knew I was very much into all of this.

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And when I mentioned I was going to Seton

Hall And a Catholic university and they

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all went, Oh, are you going to Satan hall?

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And I was like, you

think you're so clever.

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Christine: You never told me that

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Alexandra: so

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that wasn't an, that

wasn't an uncommon one.

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I heard, but yeah, it's not Satanism.

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That's a different thing.

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And I actually don't know

a whole lot about that.

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So I'm not going to even speak to it.

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Other than that,

witchcraft is not Satanism.

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Please people stop.

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If you know people who say that, it's

just not that it's all the same.

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that every different non monotheistic

practice uses the same basis.

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And it's not, I mean, a lot of, you'll

see a lot of different ideas repeat

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through different areas in different

parts of the world, which is very awesome.

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And it's kind of amazing that

we have access to the internet

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and so many different resources

now that we can learn about it.

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Yeah, we're, it's not crazy.

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I think that's one of the big things like

particularly Christine, you've mentioned

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astrology and some of the things I've

misconceptions I've gotten about that.

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It's Oh, it's just,

you know, it's hogwash.

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It's nonsense.

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It's you know, bullshit.

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I've heard it all.

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Right.

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And I'm like, okay.

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Sure.

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At this point, I'm into my life where

I'm like, if you want to believe

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that, then you believe that I'm

not here to change your opinions or

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misconceptions of if people don't

want to learn, I do not have to share.

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But I also have come to a point where I

don't have to take people's crap anymore.

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I'm just like, all right,

you know, moving on or.

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Ending a conversation.

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I mean, that's a really easy thing.

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And I can say that having been, when

I was 15 and part of why I stepped

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away was I felt so defensive about it

because, I don't know that I was super

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secure in what I knew and in my journey

of learning about and growing into.

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So how I address skepticism and

misunderstanding now is um, If people

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have questions, I love to talk about it.

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I mean, don't be surprised if my

mouth is running a mile a minute

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at some point in this episode.

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But yeah, I will ask more pointed

questions of, Oh, why do you think that?

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If they're like, Oh, this is just

bullshit, particularly in terms

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of astrology or it's Oh, people

who believe that are nonsense.

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I'm like, okay.

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Why do you think that?

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Tell me why.

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And they're like, well, it's all nonsense.

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I'm like, okay.

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So thousands of years of studies of

the skies and people's planets and

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charts who do this people across

history, they've looked at them, you

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know, it's movements and planets and

understanding how that impacts us.

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And it's also so much

deeper than just a sun sign.

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And so people who are open to that

conversation, they'll ask, and

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then I'll explain some things.

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And I go, as I start to

explain the go, Oh, wow.

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There is a lot more to that,

or even with Tarot and Oracle.

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I've had people come up to me

for readings and they ask, Oh,

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well, I'm looking for this.

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I'm like, well, I don't

actually do that specifically.

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If I know somebody, I'll direct you

to another reader or somebody who

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does that, but this is how I do.

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And they're like, Oh, okay.

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And tell me more.

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I think part of it is people who.

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Don't have a lot of interaction with

these topics, think they know what

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it's, and so that can often cause fear

or outright projection, which is fine.

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So when people approach, they don't

really know what they're asking.

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And so it's up to people who maybe

do know to be more open to sharing.

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So that would, that is what I would say.

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Just kind of saying,

okay, you're skeptical.

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I don't need to sit

here and defend myself.

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I can move and I'm starting to

meet more people now who are in.

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Interested in these topics

and share these interests.

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So that's the beauty of it now.

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But yeah, before I

think I really shut down

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and I was like, let people's

misconceptions and judgments

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of what something was prevent

me from further going down, you

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know, this path and learning more.

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So I was very stuck.

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But it also, I think, comes from People

being scared to explore different things.

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So that's how I deal with

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it.

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Christine: All right, cool.

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I agree.

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I would say maybe because I've come

to this at a later PO point in my life

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I've been very blessed in that I have a

lot of support from friends and family

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who have seen me start this journey.

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I haven't necessarily felt, any

sort of judgment from anyone.

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I will say, thinking back on it,

this doesn't necessarily relate to

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metaphysics or astrology or anything

that we're about to talk to you today.

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But I just remember like when we were

in high school, that was the era of

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twilight and it was like, when the.

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Vampires were wolves.

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There was true blood.

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There was a vampire diaries.

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There was a secret circle.

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There was all of this sort of storytelling

coming out in terms of film and

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television around these mythical creatures

and I being very much interested.

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I mean, I went through twilight phase

who hasn't if you grew up in you

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were in middle high school, if you

were in middle school or high school

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in 2008, who wasn't into twilight.

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I just remember somebody sort

of saying Oh, it's interesting

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that Christine's fascinated by,

or like into vampires and stuff.

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And just I thought I never really

questioned it personally because

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it was just, I don't know cool.

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And what was, what my friends

and I were into at the time.

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I just, for whatever reason you,

you telling your story about In your

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experience I just sort of was like, Oh, I

don't necessarily have anything related to

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this, but here's a funny little anecdote.

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Anyway

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Alexandra: Wait.

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Do you mind if I

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backtrack for a minute?

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Christine: which.

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Alexandra: of this and shut

down and you sharing that story.

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I was like, Oh yeah, I didn't mention it.

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Cause don't love to revisit that time.

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I had gone out to North Carolina

when I was living in California

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to visit my dad's family.

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I came on a solo trip.

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Christine's heard the

story many, many a time.

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And I too, very much into Twilight at the

time and other books of that genre, really

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kind of starting to explore different,

know, books of that genre that kind of

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tapped into that creativity and that

place of imagination which I love and I

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mean, hell, I still read fantasy today.

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I'd come out on that trip and

genuinely don't remember what

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brought up the conversation.

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And this wasn't when I was like, okay,

I was exploring and learning a little

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bit about different things and going,

okay, I don't feel like I'm Christian.

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That doesn't feel right.

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But what am I?

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And I think I'm leaning more

towards the Greek gods, like that,

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the belief in that made more sense

to me and that was possible then.

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What I was learning in church or

had been prior to not going anymore.

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And somebody, my cousin had said

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something.

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I can't even remember the exact

words at this point, but something

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along the lines of, because I read

Twilight, a fictional book about

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vampires, I was going to go to hell.

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That was it.

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And I think that kind of just

shook me in terms of, we talked

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about misconceptions or People

judging you for liking something.

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And it was really funny because as

an older teenager and Latin, one

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of the times I visited, they were

watching Harry Potter and I'm like, how

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Christine: Which when that first came out,

a lot of, you know, Christian communities

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were very much let's ban Harry Potter.

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So it's just the hypocrisy,

the irony all of that.

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Alexandra: it was

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real.

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It was real.

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So that was part of why I kind of

shut down it in a very because.

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Much became like a solitary exploration.

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I didn't feel like I had a whole lot of

people until I had met my godmother's

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daughter and really starting to explore.

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And so I had gotten my necklace.

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I was really starting to delve

into tarot and all this stuff and

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going, okay, this feels right to me.

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This feels yes.

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And I had told my mom about it and I have

a very open relationship with my mother.

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We talked about a lot.

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Not so much with my dad because I

never had that same sense of openness

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in terms of talking about things

that I was interested in, and that

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was outside of a stereotypical norm.

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And so I think I was around 15 at

the same time I had said to dad, I

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was like, what if I told you I wasn't

Christian and that in fact I was pagan

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and this is what I believe and more, I

want to learn more and practice more.

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And his words really

impacted me at a young age.

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And it was anything is

better than being a pagan.

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And.

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That really hurt.

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I mean, I really felt okay, somebody

I love and who loves me doesn't accept

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this part of me or doesn't whatever.

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So that was part of the reason

that I even shut down and I would

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learn about it peripherally, but it

didn't spend a lot of time and focus

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on it as much as I had wanted to.

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And About two years, two, three years

prior to my dad's passing, I really

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was more open about exploring this

and not even exploring, but delving

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back into and getting into it again.

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And he was starting to ask me questions

and not just be okay with it, but

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actively interested in whether he didn't

believe the same way, but Learning

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about what I was learning and talking

to me and being more open about those

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conversations, which is awesome.

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And my mom later explained to me, I

think maybe before, but definitely

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after his passing, he said that when

I was 15, because of his own fear of

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when he grew up, what that was like,

like what that meant for people and

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his own misconceptions about something.

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And it's just interesting because

we can say something and it can

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greatly impact somebody else

without it really being about that.

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Other person, but but yeah,

that was, sorry, that brought

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up some stuff and I was

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like, oh yeah,

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I forgot about that because I don't

often think about it, but yeah, I mean,

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Christine: Well, like you said

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Alexandra: anyways.

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Christine: That's no wonder you sort

of went through a phase of shutting

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down and not necessarily exploring

that because, you know, that someone

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who has been a very influential person

in your life and You know, you never

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want to feel like you're disappointed,

a disappointment to your parents or

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you're letting them down in any way.

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So but at the same time, he, like you

said, he was operating from where he was.

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So he wanted to make sure

you were going to be okay.

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I think ultimately, however,

how he expressed himself was the

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opposite and it hurt me deeply,

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but.

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but.

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I recall like when I would come down

to visit, you know, we'd always go,

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you take me to EBN or we sit down and

we work in our tarot journals together

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and he was always very inquisitive and

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curious, which I thought was really nice.

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And and I thought that, I think that's

awesome that he and your mom too Started

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to open their worlds a little bit

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Which just speaks to as human beings we're

constantly learning what our goal here

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with this project of ours is that

we could have constantly push

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ourselves to keep learning and

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Trying to better understand

the world around us

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: 00:30:25

Craving more of our company?

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: 00:30:31

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: 00:30:35

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Alexandra: I feel like that's an excellent

segue into what we're going to talk about

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: 00:30:40

next in some brief overview of astrology,

crystals, tarot cards, and more.

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So Christine, why don't we hit the first

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Christine: okay astrology.

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Okay.

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Alexandra: What do you think the basics,

because this is definitely an overview

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conversation.

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: 00:30:55

If anyone's really interested in one

of these specific topics, please DM us.

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: 00:30:59

That way we can build a whole

episode around this in the future,

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Christine: Or series of episodes.

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: 00:31:03

Alexandra: but what are the

true, maybe like a monthly

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install.

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What are the basics, a

few basics that everyone

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should know about an astrology, if

you're interested in it and how do you

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personally use astrology in your daily

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Christine: Sure, okay.

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Right off the bat, as I was thinking

about this today I just sort of think

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back to funny stories I've heard where

people back in when they go to college,

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: 00:31:22

they want to take they think they're

signing up for an astrology class, but

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: 00:31:26

they've signed up for an astronomy class.

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So I just wanted to give us a little

Astrology versus astronomy 101.

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And just sort of define

what those two things are.

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So astronomy is a actually a branch

of science that studies everything

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outside of the earth's atmosphere.

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: 00:31:42

So the universe essentially, and that is

a very vast and ever growing and expanding

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: 00:31:48

place because it's infinite, which is

kind of crazy to wrap your head around.

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So lots to learn from that.

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And there's a whole branch

of science dedicated to it.

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Now, astrology is the non scientific

practice of using the positions

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of celestial objects, like the

planets, stars, et cetera, to

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explain or predict human behavior.

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Essentially the, sort of the foundation

for your own personal journey with

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astrology starts with your birth chart.

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And that is created based on

your birth date, the time you

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were born and the location.

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And that builds a chart to sort of

show the positions of the our universe

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essentially at the time you were born.

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Alexandra: And from the location in which

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you were born.

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Yes.

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Christine: and so A lot of people also,

I'm trying to remember to keep this

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very sort of, light and introductory.

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A lot of people also, I think as

you mentioned, Alexandra, associate

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astrology and our zodiac signs

with our sun sign, which is just

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one tiny piece of the puzzle,

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very tiny piece of the puzzle.

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And so for instance, your

sun sign is usually dictated

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on the month you were born.

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Or the time of the month you were

born, because sometimes, depending

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on the sign, it's the first half or

end of half could be different signs.

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So for instance I was born in

December early December, so I,

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my son's sign is Sagittarius.

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And for Alexandra, she was born

early March, so her sign is

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Alexandra: I'm a Paceys.

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I'm going to make one caveat.

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What we're talking about

is tropical astrology.

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There's also a system of

astrology called side real.

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: 00:33:24

So most ones that people know

and are in like horoscopes

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go off of tropical astrology.

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So that is different.

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So even there's different

systems of astrology.

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: 00:33:35

Christine: That is certainly where I think

both of us have a little more knowledge.

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That's sort of what I've been

learning more about over the years.

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But I think a great way to sort

of, if you're interested in the

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realm of astrology, there are many

different resources, websites,

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: 00:33:50

apps that you can download.

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: 00:33:52

And you Enter in your date of birth,

time of birth, and location, and you

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: 00:33:57

can get your birth chart, and from there

it will sort of lay out your different

629

: 00:34:01

signs, your houses and all of that, which

I will not speak too much on because

630

: 00:34:07

I myself don't know a whole lot, but,

Something to sort of, think about to

631

: 00:34:11

expand beyond your sun sign is looking

at your sun, moon and rising as a base,

632

: 00:34:18

your big three.

633

: 00:34:19

And then beyond that there,

there's more to uncover

634

: 00:34:22

Alexandra: No, Christine's quite

right because there's some people who

635

: 00:34:25

in tropical use whole house systems.

636

: 00:34:27

You know, wherever your

ascendant signs, that's the

637

: 00:34:30

sign that's in your first house.

638

: 00:34:31

And then they domino after that all

the way through 12, but some signs

639

: 00:34:35

straddle houses, which makes it.

640

: 00:34:38

even more complex.

641

: 00:34:39

So definitely would suggest starting

with your big three and slowly

642

: 00:34:43

building on because I don't know,

Christine, if you had this experience,

643

: 00:34:46

when you see your full natal chart,

you go, what the heck are all

644

: 00:34:49

these lines, symbols, numbers,

645

: 00:34:51

Christine: a funny, image.

646

: 00:34:52

Maybe if you're open to

it, we share our charts.

647

: 00:34:56

Alexandra: Sir.

648

: 00:34:57

Christine: to sort of so people can get

an idea of okay, what does this look like?

649

: 00:35:00

And then we would be happy to share

resources as to where to begin

650

: 00:35:04

deciphering what your chart means.

651

: 00:35:09

Alexandra: the big three is

Christine we're saying is the

652

: 00:35:11

sun, the moon and the rising end.

653

: 00:35:14

to explain why?

654

: 00:35:15

Christine: Yes, your sun, moon

and rising, your big three they

655

: 00:35:18

describe different parts of your

personality and your life story.

656

: 00:35:22

So for instance, your son, it's the symbol

of your identity, our conscious sense of

657

: 00:35:27

self and how we usually express ourselves.

658

: 00:35:31

Our moon is typically linked

to our feelings, moods,

659

: 00:35:35

needs, and our emotional life.

660

: 00:35:37

And then

661

: 00:35:38

Alexandra: It can also be who we are when

we are at our most comfortable as well.

662

: 00:35:43

Christine: absolutely.

663

: 00:35:44

Why don't you share with

the group are rising

664

: 00:35:47

Alexandra: Okay.

665

: 00:35:47

So the rising is the mask that we wear.

666

: 00:35:51

It is how we present to

new people that we meet.

667

: 00:35:54

For example Christine mentioned I'm a

Pisces sun, but I'm also a Scorpio rising.

668

: 00:35:59

So I prevent more Scorpionic to people

when they first meet me a bit more

669

: 00:36:03

reserved, a bit mysterious, kind of.

670

: 00:36:08

Also much of my personality.

671

: 00:36:10

And my moon is in Virgo.

672

: 00:36:12

And so that means I'm very

much organized, concerned about

673

: 00:36:15

my health, bit OCD at times.

674

: 00:36:18

You know, so those are.

675

: 00:36:20

Just the three symbols, but

you could also go into their

676

: 00:36:22

elements and their modalities.

677

: 00:36:24

And so those add other layers.

678

: 00:36:26

So I, the one thing I would say,

astrology is very much like an onion

679

: 00:36:30

in the sense of you peel one layer and

there's still so many layers to continue.

680

: 00:36:35

And that is what I love about this topic.

681

: 00:36:37

And many of the topics that we

talk about is they are layered and

682

: 00:36:41

definitely takes time if that's

something you want to explore.

683

: 00:36:46

Oh, fun fact, I had learned in one

of my many Oracle decks and deck

684

: 00:36:51

collections that I have, but this

one's a specific astrology one.

685

: 00:36:55

She was writing that when you read

your horoscopes, you shouldn't

686

: 00:36:59

really be reading your sun sign.

687

: 00:37:00

You should be reading your

ascendant sign because that's

688

: 00:37:02

really what it's based off of.

689

: 00:37:04

But if you wanted a more complete picture,

you could read your ascendant, your sun

690

: 00:37:08

And

691

: 00:37:08

Christine: moon.

692

: 00:37:09

Yeah, definitely.

693

: 00:37:10

And just because Alexandra shared

hers, my, so as I mentioned, my

694

: 00:37:14

sun sign Sagittarius my moon is in

Aries and my rising is in Gemini.

695

: 00:37:19

So when I first meet people, I

sort of come off as a a Gemini.

696

: 00:37:23

Very bubbly, quick witted, chatty

and then I love to sort of have,

697

: 00:37:29

hello, I started a podcast.

698

: 00:37:31

I love having conversations

and ask probing questions.

699

: 00:37:34

I tend to be quite curious and I

want to understand who I'm meeting.

700

: 00:37:38

And then also another element to,

to all of this is there's different

701

: 00:37:43

Elements assigned to different signs.

702

: 00:37:45

So they're for instance, my, my

sun sign and my moon are both

703

: 00:37:50

fire signs and my rising is air.

704

: 00:37:53

For Alexandra, she's water and earth.

705

: 00:37:57

And then each of the elements

are have their association.

706

: 00:38:00

So like fire is Relates to energy and

passion air is intellect communication,

707

: 00:38:06

water, emotion, and intuition.

708

: 00:38:08

And I believe earth is

ground grounding and.

709

: 00:38:13

Alexandra: Earthly and

710

: 00:38:13

material.

711

: 00:38:14

Christine: and also could be

a good connection into talking

712

: 00:38:18

a little bit about tarot.

713

: 00:38:19

In tarot, there is the

elements play a role.

714

: 00:38:22

Alexandra: And so do the

715

: 00:38:23

Christine: so does the astro, exactly.

716

: 00:38:25

I actually have a book called Tarot

and Astrology Enhance Your Readings

717

: 00:38:28

with the Wisdom of the Zodiac by

Corinne But there's many resources

718

: 00:38:34

on the topic related to this.

719

: 00:38:35

So we'll definitely share the different

resources we have found useful to us.

720

: 00:38:40

But yeah, that I think is a

great introduction to astrology.

721

: 00:38:44

Would love to dive into this

even more in another episode.

722

: 00:38:47

And hey, if we do an episode focused

on each of the, each different kind of

723

: 00:38:53

astrology, I'd learn, I'd be learning a

whole lot more, which is always fun to do.

724

: 00:38:58

Alexandra: I do know the big, a

big difference between tropical and

725

: 00:39:01

side reel is side reel acknowledges

a 13th sign called Ophiuchus.

726

: 00:39:06

However, that would push me into

Aries and I am not an Aries.

727

: 00:39:11

So

728

: 00:39:12

Christine: she's firm on

729

: 00:39:13

Alexandra: I think I'm a little

bit biased towards tropical.

730

: 00:39:16

Christine: But that's a

really interesting topic.

731

: 00:39:17

As well as how we've systematically

sort of taken that 13th symbol out

732

: 00:39:24

of things or even, I think a lot

of, at one point our calendar year

733

: 00:39:29

wasn't a 12 month calendar year.

734

: 00:39:31

It was some people there was

something related to 13 and there was

735

: 00:39:36

forget what that month was called.

736

: 00:39:38

Alexandra: The lunar,

737

: 00:39:39

what's the lunar calendar?

738

: 00:39:42

Which honestly, if I would totally

be up for a lunar 13 month calendar

739

: 00:39:47

year, because it would

be 28 days per month.

740

: 00:39:50

And every month would start

on a Monday and it'd be easy.

741

: 00:39:53

Although again, that would

maybe not a March 5th baby.

742

: 00:39:58

No, I probably would still be a Pisces,

but it's just, I'm like March 5th.

743

: 00:40:02

So everyone else's birthday can

change, but mine, no, I'm kidding.

744

: 00:40:05

Christine: You're just

very connected to it.

745

: 00:40:07

But yes, I encourage you all to

sort of discover more about your

746

: 00:40:11

individual sign big three start there.

747

: 00:40:14

And yeah,

748

: 00:40:15

Alexandra: particularly don't

really connect with your sun sign.

749

: 00:40:17

Exploring what else is in your chart might

explain, maybe you have a sun, like a fire

750

: 00:40:22

sun, but you have so much water and

earth in your chart that you're like,

751

: 00:40:27

oh, this is why I don't necessarily feel

like an Aries or a Sagittarius or a Leo.

752

: 00:40:33

So I would make that caveat.

753

: 00:40:35

Christine: definitely.

754

: 00:40:36

Alexandra: Alrighty.

755

: 00:40:37

So let's, as we've spent some time

on that, let's jump into crystals.

756

: 00:40:41

I know Christina and I both have an

interest in crystals, but you had

757

: 00:40:43

mentioned that a little bit earlier.

758

: 00:40:45

What are the popular crystals that you

like and again, how do you incorporate

759

: 00:40:50

them into your daily routine?

760

: 00:40:51

Christine: I mean, my journey

sort of started, I started

761

: 00:40:54

with I didn't have a very.

762

: 00:40:58

Vast knowledge when it came to crystals

and their different properties, so I was

763

: 00:41:01

going based on color in the beginning

And my favorite colors are purple and

764

: 00:41:07

blues, so I'm drawn to a lot of those

different crystals and so starting out

765

: 00:41:15

Amethyst was a favorite crystal of mine.

766

: 00:41:17

Rose Quartz, Smoky Quartz Soledite

is the crystal of Sagittarius.

767

: 00:41:24

So that is a blue crystal.

768

: 00:41:26

So I have a lot of, I have them

in a lot of different ways.

769

: 00:41:30

I have them in jewelry.

770

: 00:41:32

I have them in polished pebbles

that I could carry with me.

771

: 00:41:36

I like to make a little bag of

crystals that I pick out for

772

: 00:41:40

different reasons to carry with me.

773

: 00:41:42

And then I've also got a pillars and

larger crystals to sort of help in my home

774

: 00:41:48

and cleansing space or boosting certain

energy And that's sort of where I started.

775

: 00:41:55

But Alexandra is really the one I

turned to and on this topic, because

776

: 00:41:59

this is a big passion of hers.

777

: 00:42:02

And you know, can I mention that her

small business that she's working on sort

778

: 00:42:06

of revolves around this realm of things.

779

: 00:42:09

So I certainly turned to her

when I want to learn more.

780

: 00:42:13

So Alexandra, why don't you share?

781

: 00:42:16

Alexandra: Okay.

782

: 00:42:17

So Christine mentioned some really well

known amethyst rose quartz actually

783

: 00:42:22

I wouldn't say smoky quartz is as

well known as maybe it ought to be.

784

: 00:42:26

I'm trying to think,

785

: 00:42:28

Christine: There's clear courts,

which I think a lot of people, yeah.

786

: 00:42:31

Alexandra: Clear quartz is

known as a master healer.

787

: 00:42:33

It's also a great amplifying stone.

788

: 00:42:35

There's something called crystal grids.

789

: 00:42:36

If you want to send energy and

intention to a specific goal

790

: 00:42:39

manifestation person that's a great way.

791

: 00:42:42

Clear quartz points are a

good way to amplify energy

792

: 00:42:45

in or out of a crystal grid.

793

: 00:42:47

I mean, there's so much, again, this

is one of those things that people

794

: 00:42:51

can go, Oh, crystals, what do they do?

795

: 00:42:54

And honestly, sometimes you can look at a

crystal and be like, that's just pretty.

796

: 00:42:56

And let it be that.

797

: 00:42:57

Um, but if you're

798

: 00:42:58

Christine: Sorry, I didn't

interject really quick.

799

: 00:42:59

There is people who just solely

are interested in crystals because

800

: 00:43:03

they are for the fact that they

are gemstones and rocks and the,

801

: 00:43:08

yeah, the geological aspect of it.

802

: 00:43:11

Alexandra: That is totally okay.

803

: 00:43:12

I mean, that's awesome.

804

: 00:43:13

Christine: Yeah.

805

: 00:43:13

Alexandra: Now, if you're interested

in metaphysical properties the

806

: 00:43:16

crystal Bible by Judy Hall or Judy

Hall's books are really probably

807

: 00:43:21

great primers for this information.

808

: 00:43:24

Things I certainly go to.

809

: 00:43:26

And then of course, beyond that,

there are even more books that are

810

: 00:43:29

Christine: Yeah,

811

: 00:43:29

Alexandra: a little medicine.

812

: 00:43:30

Christine: I personally have a

book by Mariah Lyons called Crystal

813

: 00:43:34

Healing for Women, a modern guide

to the power of crystals for renewed

814

: 00:43:39

energy, strength and wellness.

815

: 00:43:41

And it has a guide to the different A to

Z sort of what crystals are out there.

816

: 00:43:47

And then it gives also rituals that

you can use with your, with the

817

: 00:43:52

crystals, which I think is very helpful.

818

: 00:43:54

Alexandra: That's pretty cool.

819

: 00:43:55

So actually Christine, what you

mentioned, the starting with the

820

: 00:43:57

colors, that's actually a really

great place to start with crystals

821

: 00:44:01

if you're interested in this.

822

: 00:44:02

So if you're, if you know about the chakra

systems, the seven embodied chakras,

823

: 00:44:07

they're associated with specific colors.

824

: 00:44:09

Specifically, you mentioned purple,

which it can be associated depending

825

: 00:44:12

on what colors you use, either the

brow third eye or the crown chakra.

826

: 00:44:17

And so if you want to work on certain

areas of your body or like your legs, or

827

: 00:44:23

you have issues with stability, working

with the root chakra and therefore red

828

: 00:44:27

crystals is a great place to start.

829

: 00:44:30

So if people don't know a whole

lot, but they're not really ready

830

: 00:44:33

to dive into specific meetings.

831

: 00:44:35

I would just point them to it

and okay, you're, you need to

832

: 00:44:38

work with your sacral chakra.

833

: 00:44:39

Cause that's something you're focused

on, go towards orange crystals and

834

: 00:44:43

then pick up the tags and read them

and see what you gravitate towards.

835

: 00:44:46

But I love smoky courts and

terminated courts is really great

836

: 00:44:50

for transmuting negative old energy

out of your life, which is awesome.

837

: 00:44:55

And I've got myself a little collection.

838

: 00:44:58

You know, ranging from pieces that I use

for chakra healing and crystal healing

839

: 00:45:03

on myself to, you know, pieces that I

sit and hold with to ground to pieces

840

: 00:45:08

that I'm like, Oh yeah, I just want to

tuck that in my bra or my pants pocket

841

: 00:45:13

to carry with me to hold that space.

842

: 00:45:16

And as, as a touchstone, a tool

to remember, this is something

843

: 00:45:19

I'm choosing to work on.

844

: 00:45:20

Whatever it be with its, you

know, balance, health patience.

845

: 00:45:24

Those are, they're all things

intuitive psychic energy work as well.

846

: 00:45:28

So I feel like

847

: 00:45:30

that's a, but Judy Hall, the book that

Christine mentioned, those are but

848

: 00:45:34

definitely Judy Hall is a great primer.

849

: 00:45:36

Her crystal bibles, one through

three, kind of one goes through most

850

: 00:45:39

common two and three kind of getting

through the less common crystals,

851

: 00:45:42

Christine: All righty.

852

: 00:45:43

Okay why don't we move on to card reading?

853

: 00:45:47

Okay, Alexandra, you're

my go to gal for this.

854

: 00:45:51

How does card reading work, and can you

tell us the differences between tarot,

855

: 00:45:55

oracle, this word that I cannot pronounce?

856

: 00:46:00

Alexandra: the Norman and eaching.

857

: 00:46:02

Okay.

858

: 00:46:02

So I was like, I'm so excited for this.

859

: 00:46:04

This totally could be a full episode

and I would love to do that sometime.

860

: 00:46:07

So briefly Tarot will is only

Tarot, like in the sense of

861

: 00:46:12

Tarot will always have 78 cards.

862

: 00:46:14

There are like five houses or five suits.

863

: 00:46:17

There's the split into two parts,

the major arcana, which you could

864

: 00:46:22

count as quote unquote one suit.

865

: 00:46:24

And that's cards zero through 21.

866

: 00:46:26

So the full through the world.

867

: 00:46:28

And then there are four minor

arcana suits, and that is wands,

868

: 00:46:32

pentacles cups and swords.

869

: 00:46:35

And as Christine mentioned earlier,

there's association with elements and

870

: 00:46:39

then therefore the astrological science.

871

: 00:46:40

So swords are air cups are water,

pentacles are earth, and wands are fire.

872

: 00:46:47

So there's a lot within that.

873

: 00:46:49

And then each.

874

: 00:46:50

Major arcane or many of the major arcana

cards have an astrological association.

875

: 00:46:54

Like cancer is the chariot.

876

: 00:46:56

Virgo is the hermit.

877

: 00:46:58

Pisces is the moon.

878

: 00:46:59

So there's really cool things

around that as well to interpret.

879

: 00:47:03

I'm trying to make sure

I hit all the big points.

880

: 00:47:05

Book of tarot will really

only ever have 78 cards.

881

: 00:47:08

You'll see some tarot esque decks that

are 78 plus an additional one or two

882

: 00:47:12

that the author or artists have added.

883

: 00:47:14

The ethereal visions

tarot I know does that.

884

: 00:47:16

I could go on for days about

Tarot, so I'm trying to figure

885

: 00:47:20

out how to keep this brief.

886

: 00:47:21

I mean, there's a lot of associations

with that and ways to deepen

887

: 00:47:25

your reading within Tarot beyond

that there are Oracle cards.

888

: 00:47:28

So it's kind of like in the sense that.

889

: 00:47:32

All Catholics are Christians,

but all Christians are Catholics.

890

: 00:47:34

They're, I guess you could loosely

say tarot decks are oracle decks in

891

: 00:47:40

the sense that they can be used for

divination, but very specific to tarot.

892

: 00:47:43

Oracle decks can range from I

think I've seen 44 cards up to 80.

893

: 00:47:48

Some depends.

894

: 00:47:49

And they can range on different

topics, like specifically

895

: 00:47:52

crystals astrology, oh, flowers.

896

: 00:47:55

I'm trying to look at the ones I have.

897

: 00:47:57

I've got one called Enchanted

Blossoms, Roses Animal Spirits.

898

: 00:48:01

I mean, there's so many different types

of Oracle decks that are out there.

899

: 00:48:07

And really kind of being whatever drawn.

900

: 00:48:09

And there's no one right

way to read Oracle.

901

: 00:48:14

You can read them with

reversals, without reversals.

902

: 00:48:17

Some tarot readers only read Oracle.

903

: 00:48:19

uprights don't read reversals, others do.

904

: 00:48:22

And so it's kind of a bit of a dealer's

choice in that one in the sense, but

905

: 00:48:29

go towards topics that

you're interested in.

906

: 00:48:31

I'm pretty sure if you're interested

in something specific like angels,

907

: 00:48:35

there are Tons of Oracle decks

908

: 00:48:37

out there.

909

: 00:48:37

If you're interested in astrology, there

are tons of Oracle decks out there.

910

: 00:48:41

If you like a specific type of artwork,

there's tons of Oracle decks out there.

911

: 00:48:45

And tarot decks.

912

: 00:48:45

I mean, there's so many.

913

: 00:48:47

And one of my favorite that I've

recently learned probably in the

914

: 00:48:51

past two years is called Lenormand.

915

: 00:48:52

And that's comes from named after.

916

: 00:48:56

Madame Lenormand, who is a French reader,

I cannot place, at the time, we actually

917

: 00:49:00

don't know if she read what we know as the

Lenormand deck, but it's named after her.

918

: 00:49:05

It's also called the the

petit jeu so the little game.

919

: 00:49:08

So that's a really fun

system to work with.

920

: 00:49:11

That one is always 36 cards

and has specific meanings for

921

: 00:49:15

each card, which is great.

922

: 00:49:16

I mean, I've heard people refer to

sometimes poker cards as gypsy cards,

923

: 00:49:20

but the gypsy cards might be different.

924

: 00:49:21

Please fact check.

925

: 00:49:22

And then I Ching is something I've heard

about, have an interest in learning,

926

: 00:49:26

but actually don't know much about.

927

: 00:49:27

So I won't really talk about it,

but they're different systems.

928

: 00:49:30

Cards can be used as tools for self

discovery work on yourself divination

929

: 00:49:36

about a situation and the future.

930

: 00:49:38

When I read for people, I really enjoy

using it as a tool and for them to help

931

: 00:49:44

figure out where they want to go by

taking an active part in the reading.

932

: 00:49:48

I'm not a huge fan of when people

are like, I'm just going to sit down

933

: 00:49:51

and test you and see what you can

do because I don't really believe

934

: 00:49:56

in this and I'm like, okay, if you

don't, then you're going to get out

935

: 00:49:58

of this reading what you want to get.

936

: 00:49:59

But all of these things,

astrology, crystals, cards, are

937

: 00:50:05

all good tools that you can use.

938

: 00:50:08

On your journey of self discovery

or just in your life journey to

939

: 00:50:12

help get clarity touchstones is

like what you want to work on.

940

: 00:50:15

I mean, there's so many different ways

and I could go into about how you read

941

: 00:50:19

cards, which I think that would be a

whole other hour long conversation.

942

: 00:50:22

I mean, that's the basic just kind of

the overview between the different ones.

943

: 00:50:26

But yeah, I.

944

: 00:50:27

really could talk about it

going on, and I'm really trying

945

: 00:50:30

hard to contain my excitement.

946

: 00:50:31

So I'm going to put a, put in that

one for later, but that's just,

947

: 00:50:37

Generally, so you can daily use.

948

: 00:50:40

I mean, you could do a daily card pool.

949

: 00:50:42

You could do longer spreads

short spreads, week long spread,

950

: 00:50:46

like whatever you want to do.

951

: 00:50:47

There's so much out there.

952

: 00:50:48

So many different resources within

the different guidebooks online people

953

: 00:50:54

that, you know, but if you're brand new.

954

: 00:50:57

To reading tarot, I'm going to

strongly recommend you don't

955

: 00:51:00

start with a Celtic cross reading.

956

: 00:51:04

Christine: No that's a lot.

957

: 00:51:07

Alexandra: I think Christine

started to read one and I was like,

958

: 00:51:09

why are you trying to read that?

959

: 00:51:11

Christine: maybe I was,

960

: 00:51:13

Alexandra: I was like, it's not that you

can't, some people are very intuitive

961

: 00:51:17

and can get it, but it's just, it

can be a very difficult spread and

962

: 00:51:20

be very it can just make it not fun

in the sense that you don't want to

963

: 00:51:23

keep going because it's so difficult.

964

: 00:51:25

It can be so difficult.

965

: 00:51:26

Christine: I think a good a good tip.

966

: 00:51:28

Would be if you have an interest, just

sort of pick up the cards and before you

967

: 00:51:33

even start learning about it, just look

at the cards, look at the artwork sort

968

: 00:51:37

of, see what comes up for you as you're

looking at it how you might interpret it

969

: 00:51:41

without even really knowing much about it.

970

: 00:51:44

It might surprise you to sort of

see just intuitively how much you're

971

: 00:51:48

able to pick up from just looking

at them without knowing any other

972

: 00:51:52

meaning behind the different cards.

973

: 00:51:55

Alexandra: Particularly do that, and

then you go look at the guidebook.

974

: 00:51:57

Most of the Tarot that we use today

is based off of the Rider Waite

975

: 00:52:00

Smith deck and their interpretations.

976

: 00:52:03

So that is always a good starting

point for Tarot, I will say.

977

: 00:52:07

Christine: Yes.

978

: 00:52:07

Definitely.

979

: 00:52:09

All right.

980

: 00:52:09

Why don't we sort of close out this

section by talking a little bit

981

: 00:52:12

about energy healing practices and

psychic development, Alexandra.

982

: 00:52:18

Take us away.

983

: 00:52:19

Alexandra: Again, there's so much.

984

: 00:52:20

So energy healing is kind of a broad

spectrum in the sense of, that could

985

: 00:52:25

be, shamanic healing that could be

light language healing that could

986

: 00:52:29

include, I mean, Akashic record

reading to clarify current problems,

987

: 00:52:35

working with your own spirit team

crystal energy healing, chakra healing.

988

: 00:52:40

I mean, like there's so much that

you can do with energy healing

989

: 00:52:43

sound healing, which is the use of

like crystal singing bowls, Tibetan

990

: 00:52:48

singing bowls, so many different

instruments, like drums, be drums.

991

: 00:52:53

So it's a way to move energy in

and around you, which is amazing.

992

: 00:52:58

And then intuitive psychic

development is, it's a choice.

993

: 00:53:01

It's a practice.

994

: 00:53:03

And anyone can do it really.

995

: 00:53:04

I mean, it's not set aside for

a specific group of people.

996

: 00:53:08

There's different traditions.

997

: 00:53:09

You might look into like

your heritage traditions and

998

: 00:53:12

see if that calls to you or.

999

: 00:53:14

If you see something somewhere, you're

like, Hey, I'm interested in that.

: 1000

00:53:16,787 --> 00:53:17,967

Go see if you can learn about it.

: 1001

00:53:18,467 --> 00:53:21,597

But yeah, there's so many different

avenues again that we can get into.

: 1002

00:53:23,147 --> 00:53:28,497

But yeah that would be just kind of

feeling into what feels right for you.

: 1003

00:53:28,907 --> 00:53:34,447

But a psychic development is

awesome, which really starts

: 1004

00:53:34,447 --> 00:53:35,597

with intuitive development.

: 1005

00:53:36,077 --> 00:53:38,277

I think, and that is practice.

: 1006

00:53:38,617 --> 00:53:39,927

It really takes practice.

: 1007

00:53:40,682 --> 00:53:44,422

So little things every

day to the bigger things.

: 1008

00:53:44,452 --> 00:53:45,582

So that's where I would start.

: 1009

00:53:45,982 --> 00:53:49,122

And I know that's not a super helpful

answer, but Christine, what is

: 1010

00:53:49,212 --> 00:53:53,552

your take on energy healing or what

you've done on psychic development?

: 1011

00:53:54,617 --> 00:53:59,277

Christine: Well, I personally, I

think we're parallel on this as well.

: 1012

00:53:59,627 --> 00:54:04,497

I have found, I've found an

interest for sound healing.

: 1013

00:54:04,837 --> 00:54:07,067

I just think we talked a little bit.

: 1014

00:54:07,422 --> 00:54:12,042

In our last episode, when we were talking

about music, I really do believe that

: 1015

00:54:12,062 --> 00:54:18,922

on a very Basic level sound frequency

affects us in such a monumental way.

: 1016

00:54:18,922 --> 00:54:23,392

And everything around us has a frequency,

whether it's like audible or not.

: 1017

00:54:23,862 --> 00:54:26,892

So for me, I do truly believe in that.

: 1018

00:54:26,892 --> 00:54:31,122

It's I do believe in the healing

practices around sound healing.

: 1019

00:54:31,512 --> 00:54:33,522

It's, it can be very meditative.

: 1020

00:54:33,522 --> 00:54:35,162

It can be healing.

: 1021

00:54:35,662 --> 00:54:38,062

That for me is an area of

interest that I want to.

: 1022

00:54:38,329 --> 00:54:42,499

Discover more and in terms of psychic

development, I guess, it's an area

: 1023

00:54:42,499 --> 00:54:46,815

that I haven't done a whole lot in,

but I feel like I have a very sort of.

: 1024

00:54:47,315 --> 00:54:51,685

Quite intuitive and I do sort

of recognize different messages

: 1025

00:54:51,725 --> 00:54:53,335

from the universe if you will.

: 1026

00:54:53,365 --> 00:54:59,995

So I'm very aware of it, particularly

whether that comes across through numbers

: 1027

00:55:00,015 --> 00:55:05,755

or you know, just little signs like

I see for me and my family, if we see

: 1028

00:55:05,755 --> 00:55:08,085

a blue J that is significant for us.

: 1029

00:55:08,545 --> 00:55:13,125

I'm definitely sort of aware of all

of that, but I think that's an area

: 1030

00:55:13,125 --> 00:55:14,895

that I want to sort of develop more.

: 1031

00:55:15,305 --> 00:55:15,635

Yeah,

: 1032

00:55:16,610 --> 00:55:18,650

Alexandra: Gosh, we didn't

even talk about numerology

: 1033

00:55:19,010 --> 00:55:21,760

and I can't believe in energy healing.

: 1034

00:55:21,850 --> 00:55:22,990

I didn't even talk about Reiki.

: 1035

00:55:22,990 --> 00:55:24,730

I didn't even mention

Reiki, but Reiki is a

: 1036

00:55:24,900 --> 00:55:25,720

healing practice.

: 1037

00:55:25,835 --> 00:55:26,465

Christine: very true.

: 1038

00:55:26,965 --> 00:55:30,035

I personally have done intuitive readings.

: 1039

00:55:30,075 --> 00:55:32,335

I've done past life regression work.

: 1040

00:55:32,375 --> 00:55:36,365

I've done energy healing

or energy readings.

: 1041

00:55:36,465 --> 00:55:42,365

So it's all very fascinating and I walk

away from it learning a lot about myself.

: 1042

00:55:42,475 --> 00:55:47,635

And it, it tends to be quite helpful

in sort of me if I'm at a crossroads or

: 1043

00:55:48,185 --> 00:55:50,295

if I feel like I'm stuck in some area.

: 1044

00:55:50,395 --> 00:55:53,125

Yeah, again, this is this can be a whole

: 1045

00:55:53,655 --> 00:55:54,965

Alexandra: We were just scratching

: 1046

00:55:55,185 --> 00:55:59,605

Christine: Yeah, this is a whole I

mean, people dedicate their lives to

: 1047

00:55:59,605 --> 00:56:02,295

the, to each of these different topics.

: 1048

00:56:02,315 --> 00:56:07,025

Not as a whole, like astrology,

tarot, like they're people's lives

: 1049

00:56:07,025 --> 00:56:08,915

work that they concentrate on solely.

: 1050

00:56:09,005 --> 00:56:10,685

We're really just giving you the,

: 1051

00:56:10,740 --> 00:56:15,370

Alexandra: I will say out of energy

and sound healing you may not leave a

: 1052

00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:18,230

session feeling great and that is okay.

: 1053

00:56:18,230 --> 00:56:19,390

It doesn't mean it hasn't worked.

: 1054

00:56:19,420 --> 00:56:21,050

It's just working through your body.

: 1055

00:56:21,500 --> 00:56:24,230

Cause I've left, I've gone into

a sound healing with a headache

: 1056

00:56:24,230 --> 00:56:25,260

and left without a headache.

: 1057

00:56:25,610 --> 00:56:27,930

I've gone into a sound healing

session without a headache

: 1058

00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:29,520

and I've left with a headache.

: 1059

00:56:30,100 --> 00:56:31,810

And then the next day I'm

like, okay, I feel good.

: 1060

00:56:32,150 --> 00:56:36,390

So there's different, I will say sometimes

you have different physical reactions.

: 1061

00:56:36,770 --> 00:56:37,360

Each time.

: 1062

00:56:37,580 --> 00:56:40,670

That is something to be aware of if

you do it, it's not that it hasn't

: 1063

00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:44,270

worked, but you may experience different

symptoms or reactions every time.

: 1064

00:56:44,980 --> 00:56:45,700

Christine: Absolutely.

: 1065

00:56:46,985 --> 00:56:47,755

Alexandra: or have a great nap,

: 1066

00:56:48,460 --> 00:56:48,960

Christine: That too.

: 1067

00:56:49,175 --> 00:56:50,555

Alexandra: which is true, which is good.

: 1068

00:56:51,745 --> 00:56:52,565

Christine: Absolutely.

: 1069

00:56:52,615 --> 00:56:53,365

Alrighty.

: 1070

00:56:53,465 --> 00:56:58,215

Why don't we sort of start wrapping this

up here and go into our next section okay.

: 1071

00:56:58,895 --> 00:57:03,885

How do we individually apply these

concepts and practices in our lives?

: 1072

00:57:03,885 --> 00:57:05,085

Why don't you start us off?

: 1073

00:57:05,085 --> 00:57:09,430

Yeah.

: 1074

00:57:09,625 --> 00:57:10,715

Alexandra: read cards.

: 1075

00:57:10,955 --> 00:57:12,885

So that is something

I choose to work with.

: 1076

00:57:12,935 --> 00:57:15,645

Within that, I, when I get a

new deck, I really do try to

: 1077

00:57:15,655 --> 00:57:17,325

sit down and read the guidebook.

: 1078

00:57:17,705 --> 00:57:20,305

A goal of mine when I have a little

bit more time is actually to sit and

: 1079

00:57:20,305 --> 00:57:21,615

read through all of my guidebooks.

: 1080

00:57:21,665 --> 00:57:27,020

Kind of every time I read something and

I love reading different authors artists

: 1081

00:57:27,020 --> 00:57:30,590

or authors interpretations of tarot,

sometimes something just sticks in the

: 1082

00:57:30,590 --> 00:57:33,670

way another person's doesn't or reading.

: 1083

00:57:34,370 --> 00:57:38,400

guidebooks from Dex about astrology

can help expand and prime me for

: 1084

00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:41,530

delving more into astrology, which

is something I also want to explore,

: 1085

00:57:42,590 --> 00:57:44,980

not explore, but delve more into.

: 1086

00:57:44,980 --> 00:57:47,500

Cause I think I've done a lot

of exploration on these topics

: 1087

00:57:47,620 --> 00:57:50,830

and it's now moving into that

phase of really exploring.

: 1088

00:57:51,265 --> 00:57:57,015

Getting into the nitty gritty and

developing my knowledge base more.

: 1089

00:57:57,975 --> 00:58:03,425

So that's something, astrology,

obviously tarot, I mean, I'm a

: 1090

00:58:03,425 --> 00:58:06,355

nut for tarot I could read a book

about tarot any day of the week.

: 1091

00:58:06,745 --> 00:58:07,845

I love to learn about it.

: 1092

00:58:08,355 --> 00:58:13,225

So those two crystals, obviously

I do have my Reiki level two.

: 1093

00:58:13,315 --> 00:58:17,025

So pursuing that, I have my sound

healing certification level two.

: 1094

00:58:17,025 --> 00:58:18,205

I'd like to pursue that further.

: 1095

00:58:18,545 --> 00:58:21,725

I'd like to learn more about and

get into Akashic record reading

: 1096

00:58:21,755 --> 00:58:23,695

and as well as light language.

: 1097

00:58:24,265 --> 00:58:25,425

, those are some areas.

: 1098

00:58:26,430 --> 00:58:29,100

That I want to do practical

applications every day.

: 1099

00:58:30,070 --> 00:58:33,420

Weirdly, I have not done a reading

for myself in quite a while.

: 1100

00:58:33,710 --> 00:58:35,740

It's very difficult.

: 1101

00:58:35,770 --> 00:58:40,420

It can be very difficult for people to

read for themselves because we can be very

: 1102

00:58:40,420 --> 00:58:42,390

attached to wanting a specific outcome.

: 1103

00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:44,820

So it makes it more

difficult to be objective.

: 1104

00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:49,080

It is much easier for many people and

for me included to read for others

: 1105

00:58:49,130 --> 00:58:53,895

because I have little to no attachment

to the outcome of their reading.

: 1106

00:58:53,945 --> 00:58:57,265

So it's a lot easier for

information, good, and maybe

: 1107

00:58:57,545 --> 00:58:59,015

not so happy to come through.

: 1108

00:58:59,365 --> 00:59:04,165

So like to pull that practice back in

for myself working with crystals, my

: 1109

00:59:04,165 --> 00:59:10,140

sound bowls but my mentor, I saw her

this past weekend and it was We were

: 1110

00:59:10,140 --> 00:59:16,340

talking about gratitude and manifestation

and kind of that manifestation

: 1111

00:59:16,340 --> 00:59:18,100

doesn't necessarily come from thought.

: 1112

00:59:18,390 --> 00:59:20,880

So you'll hear a lot of

statements about I am, I did it.

: 1113

00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:24,640

And there's some thoughts of I

am is very much a root chakra

: 1114

00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:27,030

statement and there's different ways.

: 1115

00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:30,540

So I am, I feel for my sake role.

: 1116

00:59:31,330 --> 00:59:33,705

I have for my solar plexus.

: 1117

00:59:34,485 --> 00:59:35,775

I love for my heart.

: 1118

00:59:35,815 --> 00:59:37,125

I speak for my throat.

: 1119

00:59:37,225 --> 00:59:41,105

I see for my third eye and

I know for my crown and kind

: 1120

00:59:41,105 --> 00:59:42,755

of changing your statements.

: 1121

00:59:42,975 --> 00:59:46,717

But a lot of that comes from an

unconscious thought, which then my

: 1122

00:59:46,717 --> 00:59:50,497

mentor said comes into emotion and

we actually manifest from emotion.

: 1123

00:59:51,137 --> 00:59:55,011

So just saying I am an easy low

hanging fruit, I am abundant.

: 1124

00:59:55,551 --> 00:59:59,771

Well, if you've never felt abundant or you

don't feel abundant, it can be very hard

: 1125

00:59:59,771 --> 01:00:01,181

to say, I'm abundant, and have it happen.

: 1126

01:00:01,681 --> 01:00:06,221

So kind of working on the imagination

and creating that feeling, evoking

: 1127

01:00:06,221 --> 01:00:08,541

that feeling to then, Drive.

: 1128

01:00:08,551 --> 01:00:12,371

Some of that manifestation is something

that I would like to focus a little

: 1129

01:00:12,371 --> 01:00:15,811

more energy on through Actionable steps.

: 1130

01:00:15,951 --> 01:00:20,891

But also she likes to say I think

she said she heard it from somebody

: 1131

01:00:20,891 --> 01:00:26,102

else energy flows where focus goes

So that's a good statement for

: 1132

01:00:26,102 --> 01:00:27,242

anyone interested in something.

: 1133

01:00:27,826 --> 01:00:31,646

You don't just wake up one day and

now energy flows where focus goes

: 1134

01:00:33,151 --> 01:00:33,941

Christine: Absolutely.

: 1135

01:00:34,181 --> 01:00:35,391

That's very, that, wow.

: 1136

01:00:36,691 --> 01:00:39,261

That just really hit me

based on the week I've had.

: 1137

01:00:39,301 --> 01:00:44,617

But, anyway I do tarot

and Oracle as well.

: 1138

01:00:44,617 --> 01:00:49,317

I think I lean more towards Oracle

currently, but definitely have a

: 1139

01:00:49,317 --> 01:00:53,247

very I have a burning desire to

understand the world of tarot more.

: 1140

01:00:53,671 --> 01:00:59,737

I am very much connected to crystals

and sort of the ritual aspect of of

: 1141

01:00:59,747 --> 01:01:05,915

using crystals or using card readings

to sort of have a, help me, you know,

: 1142

01:01:06,062 --> 01:01:08,362

work through whatever I'm going through.

: 1143

01:01:08,412 --> 01:01:12,812

Alexandra kindly sometimes does

readings for me to help me try and work

: 1144

01:01:12,812 --> 01:01:14,742

through anything I'm going through.

: 1145

01:01:15,062 --> 01:01:18,632

I myself want to become

a certified sound healer.

: 1146

01:01:18,682 --> 01:01:20,952

Perhaps that will be a goal for next year.

: 1147

01:01:21,252 --> 01:01:27,088

And as I mentioned earlier in the episode

this is a journey that has ebbs and flows.

: 1148

01:01:27,238 --> 01:01:32,748

And depending on how crazy life or the

world around you gets, at least for

: 1149

01:01:32,748 --> 01:01:34,858

me can sometimes affect where I'm at.

: 1150

01:01:34,908 --> 01:01:39,058

And I hope to sort of just find my

way back and continue moving forward.

: 1151

01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:39,958

But yeah

: 1152

01:01:40,008 --> 01:01:40,428

Alexandra: Okay.

: 1153

01:01:40,868 --> 01:01:45,808

So do we want to wrap up this episode

by briefly mentioning some resources?

: 1154

01:01:45,808 --> 01:01:49,008

I know we've mentioned and dropped

a few throughout the episode

: 1155

01:01:49,008 --> 01:01:52,768

here today, but what do you, what

resources do you have for people?

: 1156

01:01:52,813 --> 01:01:53,373

Christine: sure.

: 1157

01:01:53,403 --> 01:01:58,953

When it comes to astrology, I have found a

great resource in a woman named Crystal B.

: 1158

01:01:58,983 --> 01:02:02,803

You can find her on Instagram

at Crystal B Astrology.

: 1159

01:02:02,823 --> 01:02:04,993

She's actually local to where I live.

: 1160

01:02:05,453 --> 01:02:07,123

But she has quite a big following.

: 1161

01:02:07,133 --> 01:02:13,105

And she, a few years ago, published

a book called Feed Your Moon.

: 1162

01:02:13,755 --> 01:02:16,895

Predictive and Mindful

Astrology One Phase at a Time.

: 1163

01:02:17,265 --> 01:02:19,361

But She's just great.

: 1164

01:02:19,361 --> 01:02:21,831

I've done, she's done readings for me.

: 1165

01:02:21,931 --> 01:02:26,421

We actually, my, for my birthday

one year, my mom put together a

: 1166

01:02:26,421 --> 01:02:27,781

party where she invited people.

: 1167

01:02:28,431 --> 01:02:30,391

Crystal to come and did

readings for everyone.

: 1168

01:02:30,741 --> 01:02:35,171

I've done past life regressions with

her, which are quite fascinating.

: 1169

01:02:35,231 --> 01:02:38,993

And I would perhaps even

love to have her on the show.

: 1170

01:02:39,043 --> 01:02:44,446

At some point to sort of talk about all

of this in terms of other resources, I've

: 1171

01:02:44,446 --> 01:02:48,946

been working my way through a book called

the green witch, your complete guide

: 1172

01:02:48,976 --> 01:02:54,356

to the natural magic of herbs, flowers,

essential oils, and more by Aaron Murphy.

: 1173

01:02:54,439 --> 01:02:55,199

His cock.

: 1174

01:02:55,639 --> 01:02:57,169

I quite enjoy this book.

: 1175

01:02:57,269 --> 01:03:00,369

I'm still not done with it yet,

but I definitely have connected

: 1176

01:03:00,369 --> 01:03:05,656

with the practice of being the

green, which And alexandra, why

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don't you share what you have?

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Alexandra: Okay.

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So since you started with astrology,

I will to Debbie Kempton Smith wrote

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a book, which I have not made it.

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Nearly enough through is called

secrets from a stargazer's notebook

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while making astrology work for you.

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So that's a pretty good primer

on what I've been told and

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I'm working my way through it.

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There are many different apps.

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I know Christine and I both use co

star if you want to get some brief.

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Kind of summary, cafeastrology.

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com is a really good one.

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If you want to learn more about your

natal chart without it being super

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crazy without, and by crazy, I mean,

without delving so far into some of the

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minutia of stuff that you can dig deeper

than just your sun sign, but you don't

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necessarily have to get into like trines

and squares and oppositions of different.

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Things or I don't know that it

mentioned so much all of the asteroids.

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I think it really only

mentions the Lilith sign.

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But astroseek.

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com does get a little bit further

into some of those things with

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a more detailed natal chart.

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So those would be my astrology go tos.

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We mentioned Judy Hall for crystal.

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Literally her books are great.

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Good starting points.

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And then when it comes to reading

on many or any of these topics,

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some of my favorite publishers

are Hay House Publishing.

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You'll always hear me say that.

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Louise Hay's work really good.

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But a lot of the authors who are

published through them have great

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knowledge in things like angels,

astrology space cleaning, clearing,

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you know, so different things.

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Llewellyn worldwide, Blue Angel

Publishing, Los Carbos, U.

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S., even U.

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S.

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Game Systems and Labyrinthos all

have really good, different, Decks,

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which come with good guidebooks.

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They also published and a

blue angel publishes Llewellyn

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publishes different books.

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So I would definitely recommend

checking out their catalogs.

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And if you're interested in different

decks, look at Etsy, look at just

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do a search for different things,

or you'll find a lot out there.

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I mean, independent artists to

who've reworked traditional decks.

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In a new way.

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So there's literally so much

out there that's it for today.

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Listeners.

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Thank you for joining us on this

mystical journey through the magical

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and mystical and the woo of it all.

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We hope you've enjoyed delving

into these enchanting topics as

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much as we have your curiosity and

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And we invite you to join the share

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01:05:36,650 --> 01:05:40,953

Peaked your interest today as the moon

waxes and wanes, so to do our topics

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next time, we'll be weaving through the

annals of time, unraveling the origins

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and history of the Olympics and our second

history focused episode until then, may

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your days be filled with wonder your

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magic always find you stay curious, stay

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