Episode 15

Quoted & Noted

🎙️ Words That Stay – The Power of Language

Episode Summary:

We all have them—those words we never forgot. A sentence that shifted something inside us. A quote that cracked us open. Or a throwaway comment that stuck in our minds for years.

In this episode of The Mirror Project, we’re exploring the power of words—how they shape our identity, influence how we see the world, and remind us who we are (or who we want to be).

🔹 Quotes that changed us—what we return to when life gets loud or heavy.

🔹 The moments language healed... or harmed.

🔹 How we can use our words with more care, more intention, and more heart.

Whether you’re a quote collector, a journal scribbler, or just someone who knows the weight of a well-timed word—this one’s for you.


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✨ Words That Shape Us

✔️ The quotes and phrases that have stuck with us—and why they matter.

✔️ When someone’s words changed our mindset, our choices, or our self-image.

✔️ The healing power of language—and the kind that leaves scars.


✨ Language as Identity & Influence

✔️ How words shape our identity, communities, and relationships.

✔️ Favorite affirmations, mantras, or spiritual texts we come back to.

✔️ Cultural and personal sayings that guide or ground us.

✔️ Is there such a thing as a “life quote”? We think yes.


✨ Creating With Words

✔️ The way we use language to uplift, support, and connect.

✔️ How to be more intentional with our words—especially when things feel tense or tender.

✔️ The rituals of writing: journaling, poetry, sticky notes, voice memos, songs.

✔️ Why what we say—to ourselves and to others—matters more than we think. 


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👉 Next week’s episode: Asking for a Friend – The brave, awkward, beautiful art of asking questions (even the embarrassing ones).

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Transcript
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. Christine: Hey there.

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Welcome back to The Mirror Project.

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We are your hosts, Christine.

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Alexandra: And Alexandra.

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Christine: We've all had those moments

when someone says exactly what we needed

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to hear, or the opposite when a few

careless words stuck with us for years.

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are powerful.

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They can build us up, tear us down,

shift how we see ourselves, or even

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change the course of our lives.

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In today's episode, we're diving into

the power of language, the quotes and

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phrases that have stayed with us, the

moments when words healed, inspired, or

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even hurt, how we can use language more

intentionally to shape not only our lives,

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but also the lives of those around us.

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So grab your favorite notebook or just

settle in and listen because we're about

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to explore why words really do matter.

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Let's get into it.

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Alexandra: Christine, is there a quote

or a phrase that stuck with you over

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the years and what, what was it and

what, why does it stick with you?

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Christine: So there's so many.

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I was one of those kids where I

had like quotes up in her bedroom

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and my middle school, I guess

it's more my high school journal.

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I all over the cover, different

quotes and different inspirational.

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Sayings and things.

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But I think the one that stands out

the most among all of them is actually

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what I used as my senior quote.

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If you go to my Instagram, I think

is actually in my bio, yes, it is

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a quote from the movie Mulan, which

is one of my favorite Disney movies.

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it's the flower that blooms in adversity

is the most rare and beautiful of all.

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And that's something that always

stuck with me, has stuck with me.

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It's a great sort of reminder that

even in the face of adversity or

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struggle that really can show how

strong you truly are and how beautiful

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things can come out of hard times.

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Alexandra: Hmm.

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Christine: and that just has

sort of spoken to me throughout.

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Pretty much every phase of my life it's

been, , sort of a guiding light and

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guiding principle to always remember.

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I keep it in the back of my mind

when doubt or insecurity starts

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to creep in and when I need to

remember, just keep pushing forward.

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So do you have a

particular quote or phrase.

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Alexandra: Well, I do, and I

have it tattooed on my body.

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It was something, it's a Ray Bradbury

quote I found in a, a book that

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I, I, , loved as a teen and still

love to go back and listen to.

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And I think I may have mentioned it

on the podcast before, but it says

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sometimes you have to jump off cliffs

and build your wings on the way down.

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And I think it's a really great

reminder for me sometimes.

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I don't always love change, but I adapt

very well when change is happening.

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So if I can just kind of get

myself over the, the cliff edge

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I'll basically figure that out.

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And I can't always figure out

where I need to go by just planning

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everything and never taking that jump.

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So.

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It's a great reminder to just put

yourself out there, do it even if you're

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scared shitless whatever it may be.

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Whether it's talk to somebody new, it's

put yourself in a different environment.

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Try an activity I've never done before.

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Just kind of put yourself out there.

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Christine: Beautiful.

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Alexandra: Okay.

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So has there been any time where

somebody has said something and

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it's either drastically shifted your

perspective on a topic or really

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gave you something to think about?

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Christine: Yeah, probably

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Alexandra: Mm-hmm.

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Christine: I'm trying to think if

there's any one specific moment.

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I think just growing up, that was, it

wasn't until like middle school maybe

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that I reached this point where world

started to open up more and like I found

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my love of reading and, my family's

always been very like, good about

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conversations around the dinner table

where we sort of discuss different views

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and have a open dialogue about things.

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And I would say like once I reached

college, it's where I first met you and

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we had one of our first outings where

we starting to get to know each other.

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We walked around South Orange

we were talking to each other.

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That's where you first introduced me

to the world of you were telling me

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about why you're a pagan and like giving

me some history behind it, but also

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introducing me to of tarot and oracle

reading and metaphysics and all things.

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Woo.

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And It's definitely planted a seed

that today has sort of really grown and

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blossomed into something uniquely mine.

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And I think is quite beautiful, because

I've broken away from not breaking, broken

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away, but I've sort of just discovered a

different path of spirituality that works

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for myself and I really do accredit it

to our, I really do accredit it to our

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conversation that we had that day when

we were young kids walking around town.

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And so thank you.

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I guess definitely shifted my worldview

and changed my perspective on things.

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So How about you?

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Was

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A influential conversation that

you had that sort of shifted.

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How you saw the world,

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Alexandra: Hmm.

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Christine: or not necessarily

the world, something.

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Anything.

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Alexandra: I mean, there's been a few

really, like, I don't know, things

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that have kind of stuck with me.

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I think one of them, as you

introduced me to was the Mel Robbins.

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Um, let Them Theory and that's, I

think you mentioned that last year or

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something, you kind of came across it.

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So

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I actually recently started listening

to the Let Them Theory book.

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Haven't finished it, but I feel like

that's been something that's kind

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of shifted a lot of stuff for me.

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Or at least it's starting to just

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people will be people

how to, how to exist.

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And I feel like that's a nice little

dovetail off of last week's conversation.

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When things are challenging and

difficult, just let them, and, uh,

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then what you do after let them is

you let me, and so when I finish up

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we'll have to have a conversation.

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If you're choosing to read

it, then I'll, we'll wait.

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I think that's.

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That's been super helpful because

I, I can hold onto things and I can

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ruminate over it and, you know, keep

thinking about it years and years later.

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So I think that's super

helpful for me, kind of just in

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getting some space from things.

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Christine: Sure.

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Alexandra: trying to think, uh,

my mentor, I was asking her about

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like, oh, I wanna get into, I'd

like to really study witchcraft.

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Has that been something that, that's been

a priority for me in the past two years?

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Not in the way that I thought it would be.

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So it's definitely on the, the

to-do list, but I was asking her

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about things and it was, um, I.

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I was like, okay, what do I need all this?

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Like I need this and this.

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And she's like, stop it.

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Do you think people, back in

the day she's like, do you think

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they had all this fancy stuff?

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No.

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They used what they had.

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You're fine.

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Just start with what you have.

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Which I think is really helpful for me.

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'cause um, I know you and I

have talked a lot about kind of

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perfectionist tendencies and almost

like needing to be perfect before

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starting anything or trying something.

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And I think that's been super helpful.

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Having somebody like that who's very,

just very bluntly said to me like,

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what do no stop, just use what you

have, do what you have, start with

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a simple tools, whatever it may be.

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Just put yourself out there.

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So I think, um, in those sense I'm

trying to think of anything else.

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Um, but yeah, I think those are probably

the biggest ones that are coming to mind

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right now that have kind of like, I.

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Not shift in my worldview of like

completely subverted who I am or

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like totally changed my direction,

but really just kind of helped

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me let go a little bit to, to,

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Christine: is

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Alexandra: yeah.

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Christine: that's, that, that's been

something that's been a big part of

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you and and how you've sort of moved

through the world and how you've

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dealt with things that come your

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That's not a small thing.

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That's really good.

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Alexandra: Yeah.

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And I think, and sometimes they're

better than saying, just I'll let it go.

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You know?

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I hate that word.

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Let it go,

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But I get it.

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Christine: I get it.

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I get it in like concept,

but sometimes it's it's like

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that's really easier said than

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Can be like.

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Sad at the wrong moment can be

perceived as quite dismissive

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Me and what I'm going through.

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And I get it.

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But it when you can and find the

moments to sort of just release

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things, it's, it's really good.

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Takes time.

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Alright.

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How about, is there anything

you've experienced like,

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that has healed or harmed you

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In, in, in what people have said to you?

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Alexandra: I feel like it's easy to start

with the harm and I, I don't know, I've

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probably talked about this on the podcast

before because I know we've, we've talked

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about my past with an eating disorder

and the relationship with food and just

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body image, and I know that we'll be

talking about that later this month.

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Just body image and health.

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Well, something somebody said to me

when I was still lived in Irvine.

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It must have been before fifth grade.

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And I was already

struggling with my weight.

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And I hadn't at that point, hadn't,

um, didn't have any disorder, but

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like I had issues with my body image,

didn't really love myself, kind

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of, a weird relationship with food.

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And somebody had said, I was

like, how do I look in this?

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And they're like it looks like

you're shoving seven pounds of

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sausage into a five pound casing.

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And it stuck hard.

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And so in that case, I think

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Christine: That's awful to say to a kid.

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Alexandra: there's ways to be honest and

kind, and that was not, that was harsh.

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Christine: yeah, being honest

doesn't mean you can be mean.

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Was mean.

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That

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Alexandra: That was mean.

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And

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Christine: that happened.

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Alexandra: thank you.

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I'm sorry it happened too.

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And I think we talked about it

like in, oh, in our in inherited

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wounds, intentional healing episode.

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Wherever that comment came

from, that person, that's

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neither here nor there for them.

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In that case, I have to follow

the, let them theory, let them.

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But now let me, and in the sense

of, well, how do I deal with that?

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And it is something that has

stuck with me for a long time.

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I mean, it's impacted the

way I think about clothing.

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And I, you know, I know Christina

and I have, you've had, I've

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had many conversations about

disliking the dressing room.

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Um, it's something, it was a comment

that always come up in my mind.

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Is this too tight or is

it, does it look like this?

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Is this something just kind of always

something that's stuck with me.

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And there's somebody had said, oh,

you're such a bitch for liking.

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You know, some I think I said something,

I liked my mom's recipe over something.

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Or for somebody, a classmate's mom

brought in, they're like, well, you're

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such a terrible person, why would you?

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And so those things have stuck

with me and probably 'cause I tend

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to ruminate on things a lot like.

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Those stuck.

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In terms of healing,

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I don't know.

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I don't know if there's been any

one phrase or something that's

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really, I really kind of stuck with

me and I know my, um, therapists

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and some friends I have, they're

like, okay, give yourself grace.

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Like allow yourself time that you don't

have to change or fix all this in one go.

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But I don't know that there's

like an intentional phrase or

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something that's really that's it.

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That's the thing I've held onto

that's helped counteract some

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of the hurt that words have had.

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What about you, Christine?

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Has anyone said anything

that's really helped you heal?

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Then you're like, wow, this is

the thing that's like the guiding

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principle or maybe harmed.

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Christine: I grew, growing up, I struggled

a lot with a learning disability and

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just knowing I was different from the

jump and being in such a small school and

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having to be taken out of class to have

like specialized tutoring or whatever,

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really just wasn't very beneficial.

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Just made me feel like self-conscious

about the fact that I was being

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pulled out of class and kids knew why.

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Which also was like, you're pulling

me out of a lesson to tutor me.

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But now I'm behind in the

lesson that I missed in class.

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It

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I didn't understand.

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behind that.

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But as a result, going through the testing

as a kid my and my mom shared with me like

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what the I don't know what the person's

title is, but whoever was, whoever

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had performed the testing on, on, on

me saying that I would never achieve

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anything greater than like a C or a C

in school, which to say about a kid.

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Like, I think I went through that

testing when I was five or six.

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Alexandra: That's really young.

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Christine: so that greatly impacted my mom

because my mom also struggled as well, but

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it's because people didn't know how to.

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There wasn't a, they didn't know how

to teach people like my mom and myself

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like there's multiple ways of learning.

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My mom's a very intelligent woman.

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But I saw how it greatly

impacted her as a result.

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It had quite the impact on myself.

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And so that stuck with me and

definitely sort of affected my view

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on myself and if I would ever be able

to do well in school, in life, like

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Alexandra: Mm-hmm.

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Christine: that time is your life,

so you zoom out and it's like really

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does become an opinion on how you'll

be able to live, um, your life.

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I ended up being a very good student.

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I was able, I did achieve

really good grades.

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I got A's, and so in, in the moments

of being able to leave middle school,

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having been on the honor roll, like

that was such a profound moment,

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not only for myself, but for my mom.

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Saying, knowing that we beat whatever

odds were stacked against me, but

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it did have a harmful effect on me,

I think developmentally and how I

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Myself,

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not because I think it was my mom's intent

or whatever the case may be, but like,

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you know how you just internalize things.

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People with the best of intentions

sometimes share something with you and

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like you, like they can't it may not have

been their intention, but how you took it.

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Can, you know, harm or can harm you?

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Alexandra: It be something that

you end up telling yourself.

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Christine: But at the same time, I think

that there has been an infinitely number

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of experiences of moments of healing.

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And I definitely know myself and

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know when I'm more susceptible

to the, to those moments.

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You know, like if in a particularly

like dark place and someone's trying

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to, I don't know, lift my spirits or

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share with me how they see me,

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If I'm in that, if I'm in that head space,

it's very hard to get through to me.

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In moments of reflection.

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You know, looking back on

that and, uh, letting it sink

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Like kind words of affirmation coming from

other people it is incredibly healing.

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yeah, I think I've really started

to appreciate that more now.

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And I, I look back on, we had

conversation, a conversation

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recently about our past selves

and, um, being kind to them.

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I definitely have found that I do

that a lot and also recognizing

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I'm never, I'm only ever gonna

be who I am now in this moment.

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So let's not take that

for granted as well.

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Let's be in the moment, appreciate her

and see where she'll go and those sorts of

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words of affirmation, quotes song lyrics.

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I all really paint a beautiful

picture and help me remember where I

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am, who I am, how to be present, and

how to look back on the past with a

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sense of um, because that's what

helped me get to this point.

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Alexandra: I like that.

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Christine: Alrighty.

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why don't we shift a little

bit sort of talk about language

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as identity and influence.

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Why don't you kick us off and sort of

a little bit about how the words we use

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shape our sense of self or community.

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Alexandra: Okay.

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Well I think you kind of

started on that, right?

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Like you, somebody says something not

particularly flattering or positive

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about you, and it can become something

that you kind of then internalize

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and then repeat to yourself, right?

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I think this could be the same for

someone who says something positive

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about you and you can go, oh, hey,

let me tell myself that story.

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I think it depends on the type of

person you are, but I know for both

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of us, we've talked about like really

tend to internalize the negative

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comments and think about 'em a lot.

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So I think in that sense,

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you become the thing I.

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You become the thoughts you have

about yourself and almost the point

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where your, your bo your mind, your

body's looking for proof of that.

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So you'll live out situations and,

uh, scenarios which prove that.

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And therefore I think that you

develop kind of a community

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sometimes around that thing of lack.

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Conversely, I think you, you have

talked positively about yourself.

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You can start to, to build and see

that kind of flutter through your

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life and, and build community that

kind of supports that, you know,

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positive self-talk and community.

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Not that you'll always be positive a

hundred percent of the time, but I do

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think trying to see if I see it on my

shelf the Mind to Matter book by Dawson

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Church, I think I've mentioned it

before, is to me been really impactful

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because it's about how our thoughts

about ourself create our identity,

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but also create our external reality.

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And I think.

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Words, spoken words have so much

power, but our thoughts have so

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much, so much impact on our lives.

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And I thought we can always

control our thoughts.

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I know we've had conversations about

meditation and the thought that you

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all have to have, think about nothing,

or you sometimes can fall down the

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rabbit hole of chasing a thought.

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But being conscientious of how

you think about yourself and your

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your world and your community.

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If somebody's out there listening and you

wanna change in your life, like you, you

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want new people in your life, different

people in your life, I think it really

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starts with yourself and like ourselves.

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And it is a lot easier said than

done to change your thoughts, but

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I think every drop of, new thought,

the thought of the type of person

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you wanna be adds, adds to it.

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And I just, I.

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I think how we think about ourselves

subconsciously, not even like

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verbally ripples out into our life and

therefore the people that are around

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us are kind of a reflection of that.

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Christine: Definitely

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I'll put, I like that a lot.

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Alexandra: Okay.

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Christine: don't know if I have

anything else to add to that.

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I think you answered

that question perfectly.

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Alexandra: amazing.

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Well that, okay, Christine are

there any phrases or affirmations

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that you return to regularly?

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Like they're your go-tos?

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Christine: There's one that, like

our family mantra, we have, my

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saying like, that they are mantras, but

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like growing up I think we've talked

about this before probably in our sayings

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and mantras episode, but the things

that like sort of stick with me are

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those things that we say as a family.

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my mom, it started with my mom when

she first had me, and it's just

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become like a reflection of the love

that we all have for each other.

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Just like a little saying like.

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That means so much to the five of us.

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And then my dad was really big

on different sayings to sort of

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motivate us and get us excited

about going to school that day where

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he would say make history today.

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be like, whoa, that's really

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intense to say to like a kid.

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But it's, it's more so like, go

find something today that like

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leaves a mark on you or you leave

a mark on something big or small.

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Like it doesn't have to be but it

impacts you and your personal history.

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Or how do you eat an elephant?

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One bite at a time.

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Just take a situation that in like

objectively is really quite massive

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to try and tackle all at once.

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bite at a time, you'll eventually, I.

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Come out the other side of it.

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So those are definitely things that

I kind of come back to regularly.

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I also love that we do monthly mantras

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Share on Instagram that we both obviously

they mean something to us and we find

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that they are something we're sharing.

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So I think this month's, if

I'm not mistaken, we're, we

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are filming this in June.

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So June's mantra is, am working

for the life I promised myself.

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Which is definitely something

that has been very influential in

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this time of my life, of the fact

that I'm going to be moving and.

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By the time this episode comes

out, I may have already moved.

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There's with cha like going after the

things I want and making the changes.

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Being act, being an active participant

in the life that I wanna build for

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myself definitely is something that

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is really key for me to remember

right now and not be just like

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a passenger my life journey.

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Those are, those are sort of things

that I return to regularly and are

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very important for me right now.

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Is there anything

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Alexandra: I was, I thought, I

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Christine: you these days?

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Alexandra: thought I had a note on my

phone of like quotes that I had kept, um.

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Christine: I'm kicking myself.

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I'm currently at my parents' house

for, for the day and I forgot to

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bring with me, but it's a whole

notebook that I'm almost full.

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I've almost filled of just

quotes, excerpts from books song

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lyrics, poetry, that just has

really sort of stuck with me.

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So I'm kind of bummed.

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I don't have that today, but

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Alexandra: So I can't find, I thought

I had some interesting quotes,

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but I don't have, I can't find it.

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But I'm excited to see you're a notebook

full of them and I kind of like that.

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Like a collection of,

and it's kind of cool.

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I bet you can see like the

progression of you over time.

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Let's see.

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It's our quote that I keep coming back to.

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I mean there's the one

that I tattooed on my ribs.

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That's always something.

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I feel like the only thing that's

really sticking in my head is something

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from the live action Cinderella from

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And yeah, I think for that one,

that one kind of sticks with me.

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I.

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Particularly if I'm trying to do something

new and I'm like little scared about it or

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apprehensive, just have courage and either

be kind to other people, but be kind to

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myself in that process because I tend

to be very harshly critical of myself.

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So having courage and being kind,

and I think there's just something so

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quietly strong about that sentence.

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Christine: Absolutely.

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The power of words, like something

so short and sweet and simple as that

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meaning can have such like a profound

and deep meaning is remarkable.

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It's like you just summed up something

so complex in 10 words or less like,

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Alexandra: Yeah.

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Christine: oh my gosh.

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Alexandra: Speaking of movies, is there

any like movie quotes or something that

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just has, just hits you the best way

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Christine: Well, that one, the one that I

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Christine: first, the one from Mulan.

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I was big fan of Disney growing up

as a kid, so like movies, but not

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necessarily the Princess movies.

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Like I loved Mulan, I loved Hercules.

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And the later the, the films that have

come up that have come out since I've

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been not a kid anymore, like I love

seeing what Disney has done with like

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Frozen and Moana and and then like

movies, like, I love Toy Story as a kid.

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So like the song, you got a

Friend in Me or the thought of.

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Like home isn't a place,

it's the people you're with.

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We've talked about this before.

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Film has been very influential in my life.

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, And music is well, so I could

talk about that for days.

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But is there anything else

besides that Cinderella quote that

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Sticks out for you

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Alexandra: yeah, there, there's a few

things that come come into to my head.

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Some, one of my friends had actually just

recently texted it to me a while, not that

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far back, but let me find it real quick.

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Christine: While you're doing that,

actually I just remembered, I also

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downloaded, and I'm sure there's

many other apps, but, , the one I

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have like sends me a quote each day

that pops up as like a notification.

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I don't know if I have today's,

I might have I, oh, here it is.

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try not to resist the

changes that come your way.

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let life instead let life live

through you and do not worry that

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your life is turning upside down.

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Alexandra: Hmm.

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Christine: Do you know that the side

that you used to, I can't read, how

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do you know that the side you are

used to is better than the one to

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come, which is a quote from Rumi.

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So that, and I don't even know what

app I have here, but, Downloading

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something like that where it

sends you like a quote each day.

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That's where actually I've

gotten a lot of, that I've added

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to my notebook over the years.

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I also have Life's Tricky

baby, stay in your magic.

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As like a

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Alexandra: Oh cute.

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Christine: Block on my phone

as like a little reminder.

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It was my lock screen

for the longest time.

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just as a little reminder of

like, life's hard, but remember

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to stay true to yourself.

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What you have is special.

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Don't, don't let the

world snuff that out a

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Alexandra: Cool.

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Christine: did you find it?

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Sorry?

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Alexandra: I did.

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So before I get to that one, before

I get to that one, there was one,

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I think we've watched the movie

together, the Spy Who Dumped Me.

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Something that's like majorly impactful

in life, but it's, I love the part

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where she's talking to her friend

and somebody's coming to the bar.

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She's like, ah, not

wanting to talk to them.

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And she's like, then I'll have

to say this and then do this.

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And her friend's like,

okay, I'm gonna do this.

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She's like, just go in, say what you

need to say, get out, kind of thing.

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And so she's like, ask me how my

weekend goes or how have you been?

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She's like, oh, I bought a boat end.

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I out.

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That's it.

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And I feel like that's, I feel like for

me that's a, it's like an impactful like.

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Quote in the sense of like, I

don't have to overexplain myself to

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people, particularly those that are

not important to me, but also in

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general, it's like, it's okay just

to say, ah, I bought a boat, blah.

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Will I ever personally buy a boat?

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I don't think so, but find my

boat and therefore apply it there.

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but there are definitely some sort of

like bits and like monologues of movies

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that have stuck with me over the time.

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Uh, I can't remember them all

right now, but I do like to quote

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movies every once in a while.

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So speaking of voting movies, one of

my favorite books and, and movies or

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miniseries is Pride and Prejudice.

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Um, so this one is from the, the

movie with Kira Knightly and my friend

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had never seen Pride and Prejudice

and all I get is a text in all caps.

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You have Bewitched Me,

mind, body, and Soul.

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Followed by Dear Lord,

and that's all I got.

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And I was just like, I love that.

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I mean, I've re like, I don't remember

that being in the book or in the other,

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like miniseries, adoptions, but it is

one of my favorite lines from, from

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that movie and in, in interpretation.

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Christine: It's my fa it's

probably my, like my top.

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It's films all time.

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I love that movie.

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I love that book.

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Alexandra: Good, good music,

just everything about it.

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But

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Christine: is,

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Alexandra: if a man ever proposed,

oops, if a man ever proposed to me

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with you have bewitched me mind,

body and soul, I'd be like, okay.

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I'd be like, I am on the floor.

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Dead and dying.

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That's amazing.

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Christine: Or from his first

Confession of love that wasn't

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quite, didn't quite hit the mark.

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But where he says, IL was it the first

confession where he says like, most

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ardently, I love you most ardently?

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Or is

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Alexandra: Yes.

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Oh my gosh.

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Yeah.

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The rain, in that beautiful setting.

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Yes.

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I'll just say yes.

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Christine: Yeah.

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Yeah.

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That's a good one.

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Ugh.

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Alexandra: but yeah, I'm trying to

think of anything that's come out of

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like other books or TV shows or movies

that have really have stuck like that.

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I can't think of anything.

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Christine: many, many,

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Alexandra: Yeah.

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Christine: but that's okay.

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How about we talk a little bit

about how cultural sayings, mantras

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or spiritual texts impact us?

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I kind of mentioned how like our mantras

are really helpful, but how do they

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have a larger impact on us, let's say?

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Alexandra: Do you have like an example of

a cultural saying that you're thinking of?

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'cause like every my mind just went blank.

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Christine: Sort of like vie

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Alexandra: Okay.

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Christine: or Any sort of like, oh

gosh, what's I'm just thinking of

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the ones my family say, and I don't

think that's like culturally a thing.

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Like one, one thing my one thing

my family says is, life sucks.

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Wear a helmet.

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That's not, I don't think

culturally relevant saying,

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but certainly good advice.

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Alexandra: I love that.

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That's amazing.

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Um, wear a helmet.

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Christine: Yeah.

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Wear a helmet.

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Alexandra: I think, okay.

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This is silly what it's like

when life hands you lemons

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make lemonade or something.

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But

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Christine: Yeah.

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That's more culturally accepted.

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Alexandra: okay.

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I don't know if this is, this

is definitely not answering the

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question you had, but I think the

most overused one, the one I dislike

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the most is live, laugh, love.

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I'm just like, uh, get over it.

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But um,

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now I've just got your

comment about the livestock.

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Christine: Sorry.

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How ha how have those sorts of things?

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Let's circle it back to the question.

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Alexandra: Okay.

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Christine: cultural sayings, mantras,

which don't necessarily have to be

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like, well known, they could be like

my stupid family's little saying

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about life sucking or spiritual

texts, whether that's the Bible or

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Alexandra: Hmm.

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Christine: Quran or the Torah, like

different spiritual texts impact us

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Alexandra: I think they can, um, I mean

like profoundly affect an individual,

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particularly with the spiritual text,

depending on what traditions you follow.

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And not really growing up.

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Growing up in a more Christian

like culture I feel like there's

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been a lot of things that have

culturally been or internalized

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that may not always be so helpful.

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I am just so blanking

on this, um, mantras.

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I don't know.

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I think that one's a

little hard, but I think

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Christine: If we sort of wanna talk about,

maybe for a second, the negative side

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effect of like how, especially in the

states, the Bible is weaponized almost

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Alexandra: hmm.

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Christine: Promote conservative agenda.

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And I mean, the whole foundation that the

United States was built on was the idea

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of the separation of church and state.

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And it's so exhausting

sometimes, especially today

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with things being so polarizing

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One extreme or the next, to be constantly

like pushed this ideology that is embedded

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by a warped view of a spiritual text.

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So that's like one example.

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Maybe not necessarily the

most lighthearted thing,

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Alexandra: I say that sometimes when

it's like subconscious and it's because

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you've heard people talk about certain

things in specific ways, whether it be,

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sexuality or sensuality, and is that okay?

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Um, thinking more for, in terms of

women, like what's appropriate dress

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or not appropriate dress or, you

know, nice girls don't do this or,

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you know, do that if you, if you

dress this way or lose or whatever.

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I think in some sense some of those

cultural ideas can be very harmful

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in figuring out like who you are and,

okay, I think this is going off way off

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topic, but I do feel like it's important

to say, I think sometimes cultural,

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spiritual texts can impact somebody's

view of their own body and pleasure.

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And I'm not a huge fan of that because

I think it takes so much to reclaim that

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and be okay and comfortable with yourself.

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And so I think that's something

where words can be very harmful.

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The same words that might be very

harmful to me or to you, to somebody

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else, may, might make them feel

very like safe, um, and comfortable.

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And I think that's the hard part with

like cultural or spiritual texts or and

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sayings is that they can do as much harm

as they can do good for different people.

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So it's, it's definitely

not a one size fits all.

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Christine: I

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Alexandra: Yeah.

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Christine: even take this, we were

talking specifically about the female

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experience, but, and this is quite not

necessarily most popular opinion right

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now, but I am like really nervous for

the climate right now about, and the

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conversation a around men right now.

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And I mean, I.

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A woman, so like that's my experience

and I have a lot of beliefs about

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and related to like my experience

as a woman, but I'm worried how this

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sort of hate rhetoric towards men it

can lead to a very dangerous which

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I understand might be a really not

so popular opinion to talk about.

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But recently there's an artist

I really like, , out of England.

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He just actually, , had an

album come out on Friday.

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he, his stage name is called Youngblood

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He did an interview recently where

he talks about he's been on a journey

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within the last few years about finding

where his masculinity fits in in his

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life and who he is, which I think right

now really kind of scary for men to

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admit is finding like their masculinity

because there's such a, a hot topic right

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People immediately go towards the toxic

form of masculinity, which does exist.

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But like that doesn't mean masculinity is

in it back in, in itself like a bad thing.

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And I don't mean for us to sort of dive

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Alexandra: Yeah.

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Christine: whole thing,

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Alexandra: But before we get off that,

I would also say that there's a very

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toxic form of, femininity and I, I

don't love that conversation about the

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polarities of like masculine and feminine.

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Do those things exist in nature?

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Yes, absolutely.

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Are they necessary?

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Yes, absolutely.

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Should they be celebrated?

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Yeah.

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I mean, they are very

different in many ways.

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And I don't know, we're,

we're still getting off topic

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here, but I agree, and I feel

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Christine: it lives in both

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Alexandra: everything.

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Yeah.

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Christine: both live, masculine,

feminine lives in everybody

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Alexandra: And I think it should,

like, I think to pick one over the

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other, it's like I've had okay, so

you're talking about cultural stuff.

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Like I don't, I don't love the whole

conversation about like, oh, the

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patriarchy, da da da da, and, or

like, you know, capitalism is awful.

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And I think in some sense things

are just systems and how people use

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and abuse them makes them awful.

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used to be friends with a group of people

who, oh, down the patriarchy, we hate,

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they hated it, da dah, dah, dah da.

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Very interesting rhetoric,

words used around that.

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And so then their response was like,

oh, we should live it in matriarchy.

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And I was like, whoa.

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And to me, I'm like, whoa,

whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

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I don't know that that's the right

answer because A, as much as this can

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become toxic, negative, terrible, the

other can also be warped in that way.

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So I just, yeah, it is a very interesting

time to live in, in a narrative and

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I don't know.

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Christine: an impact on,

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Alexandra: Yeah, young men, young women,

how they view the other genders, sexes,

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Christine: yeah.

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Alexandra: is it, safe to engage and I.

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For anyone, anyway, that went to a very,

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Christine: No, no, I just think,

'cause like my, basically the point

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I was gonna come around and make is

I think like with all of this hate

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directed towards any individual, it's

not going to foster an environment

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for them to feel accepted or seen.

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And it will most likely lead them to

areas where they can radicalize them

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and make the situation even worse.

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But then on the flip side of that,

like when it comes to the indi, each

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of us as an individual, having, your

own mod, like your personal mantra,

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that is your guiding principle.

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And if you stick with that, that

can help block out a lot of the

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no, because there's always gonna be

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Right now certain issues are.

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Louder than others.

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It's important to be aware of that

and sort of keep being mindful and

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tracking that, how that's going.

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But having those of that the principles

that you live by helps keep a head

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on, like your head on your shoulders.

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And Yeah.

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Alexandra: So

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Christine: we took, took a little bit

of an interesting turn there, but,

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Alexandra: you mentioned life quotes.

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Do you, other than the ones that your

family has said, do you have a life

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quote, a guiding principle that you

say, this is the thing I live by.

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Christine: Oh, yeah, I think there's

several, there's several out there.

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Some that are actually still root.

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Like I, I

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follow that faith anymore, but the idea of

treat others the way you wanna be treated,

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Think has just been sort of

a guiding like principle life

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quote that has stuck with me.

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Just, in a world where there's

so much hate and anger, I don't

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necessarily need to contribute to that.

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And I think like offering an act of

kindness to a loved one, a friend, a

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stranger is like my way of giving back

and putting some good out into the world.

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Yeah.

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How about you?

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Is there,

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What's your life quote?

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Alexandra: I don't know that I have one

or one that I am like, oh, this is you

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know, this is the thing I say to myself.

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I don't know.

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I think I, I think a, it's

not even a quote, but I think

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integrity is like a big one for me.

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Like that's a guiding principle.

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How do I.

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How do I show up and, and be who I am?

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How do I show integrity?

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Like commit.

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I think there's not a fancy way to

say this or a pretty like quote that

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I have right now, and it might be

something I think about and we can share

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:

when we, um, post this episode in the

caption, aligning words with action

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because as, as important and impactful

as words can be, I think action and

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follow through are just as important.

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Do, am I living how I

say I, how I say I am?

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I think that for me is like a guiding

principle or quote, like, do I show

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up in the way that I say I will?

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So if anyone's got a, a fancy, beautiful

way to say that, please let me know.

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Christine: Well, just like how, another

thing my mom would say when we were

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kids is like, actions speak louder than

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You may say one thing, but if your actions

are in direct contradiction to that, then

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:

Alexandra: Yeah.

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:

Christine: that's, that shows me

more who you are than the words that

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:

you say, even though words can have

such a profound impact on who we are.

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:

so yeah, I guess that

that could be like a good.

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:

Alexandra: yeah.

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:

I like that.

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:

Christine: way of, of expressing

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:

Alexandra: why those words

didn't come out of my mouth.

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:

Who knows?

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:

Christine: It's okay.

760

:

We got there.

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:

Alrighty.

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:

Alexandra: So shifting gears a

little bit, how do you curate

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:

your world with your words?

764

:

What language do you use personally

to empower yourself or your friends

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:

and community, the people around you?

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:

Christine: What language do I use?

767

:

Um,

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:

speak to those who I love and care about

and those around me in general, just like.

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:

Try and find the good in.

770

:

I'm a Glass is half full

kind of gal optimist, ever.

771

:

The optimist.

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:

Not really want to try

and put people down.

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:

Alexandra: Hmm.

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:

Christine: but I think sometimes that

gets lost in how I talk to myself

775

:

I have moments of reckoning and I'll

even like point it out like with my best

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:

friend and I say if she's being, uh,

hard on herself, I say, Hey, don't talk

777

:

to my best friend that way as like a

moment of like, Hey I know you're being

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:

hard on yourself in this moment, but I

just wanna remind you like, your words

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:

matter and I'm gonna just be, I'm gonna,

I'm gonna be protective of you even if

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:

you're not in this moment kind of a thing.

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:

Alexandra: That's lovely.

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:

Christine: Thanks.

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:

I hope so.

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:

I hope it comes off.

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:

I, and I mean, I say

it in a loving manner,

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:

Alexandra: Oh,

787

:

Christine: like

788

:

Alexandra: You've

definitely said that to me.

789

:

Christine: you.

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:

I'm like, Hey, buddy, don't

talk to my best friend that way.

791

:

And, but it's, it's sometimes hard to

remember when it comes to yourself.

792

:

So sometimes I have to have those

moments like, Hey, don't talk

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:

to yourself that way, Christine.

794

:

Like, you wouldn't talk to

your best friend in the way

795

:

you're talking right now.

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:

so does that answer the question?

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:

Alexandra: I think so, yeah.

798

:

I mean, like, it's a really empowering

way to like, encourage other people

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:

to, to be kind to themselves.

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:

And I think we've talked about

this throughout this episode.

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:

Like I think the words that

we say to ourself impact the

802

:

words that we say to others.

803

:

And if we're kinder to others, then

it's an indication that, hey, we

804

:

really need to fix our internal world

a little bit to, to ensure that we

805

:

keep showing up for others in the

way that we are and want to continue.

806

:

Yeah, I like that because I'd

be so much kinder to other

807

:

people than I would to myself.

808

:

And I feel like, yeah, you,

right, you want your internal

809

:

to reflect your external.

810

:

So sometimes if your external is

a little bit brighter than your

811

:

internal, we gotta work on it.

812

:

Gotta say, oh, hey, how do we let this

permeate through our entire lives?

813

:

Not just one aspect I

814

:

Christine: Yeah.

815

:

Alexandra: or one area.

816

:

Christine: For a very long time

and I still at times struggle with

817

:

the idea of like, do I love myself?

818

:

Which I think everybody can really

do, and it's a question and some

819

:

people no problems say, yeah.

820

:

And I'm like, for you.

821

:

That's amazing.

822

:

And I think you know upon, and I

think, you know, upon reflection,

823

:

Today I think I love myself the most

I've ever loved myself in my life.

824

:

I wouldn't say it's like overflowing

and, but I'm really, really happy

825

:

with who I am, where I'm at my life.

826

:

The people I've surround myself

with, help, they all help fill my

827

:

cup, but I also am able to fill

my cup myself with just who I am.

828

:

And every day's not perfect.

829

:

And there's like periods of time

where it's like really not so good.

830

:

But it's something like I, I'm

constantly working on and to really

831

:

push myself to say, to ask well, why

am I not loving myself in this moment?

832

:

Alexandra: When you were talking, it

made me think, I'm like, how do I wanna

833

:

show, how do I show up for other people?

834

:

Or how do I wanna show

up for other people?

835

:

And, um, I hope that this has

been coming across, and this is my

836

:

intention, is when people say they

wanna do something, like I'm, I

837

:

definitely wanna be the cheerleader.

838

:

Like, oh my gosh, you can do it.

839

:

Particularly if you start to, you,

Christine, or any of my friends, talk.

840

:

Oh my gosh, I can't do this.

841

:

I'm like, no, you got this.

842

:

Like, you can do this.

843

:

Look at what you've already done.

844

:

Like, look at the steps

you've already taken.

845

:

You are a rockstar.

846

:

You are something.

847

:

And it's

848

:

so much easier to say

that for somebody else.

849

:

And then when it comes to, to myself,

it's like not crippling anxiety, but

850

:

like it, doubt, self-doubt creeps in.

851

:

And um, you know, I, I don't

think I would ever put that in a

852

:

friend's head or a community's head.

853

:

People in my life go like,

oh, hey, no, you deaf.

854

:

Can't do that.

855

:

Who are you to think, you know?

856

:

Christine: Yeah.

857

:

No, I would never imagine

you saying that to anybody

858

:

Alexandra: so why do I say it to myself?

859

:

Um, uh, but I, the other thing

we were thinking about sorry,

860

:

I'm gonna roll that back.

861

:

The other thing that made me think about

like a life quote was kind of ruminating.

862

:

There for a minute was something

that I kind of heard through

863

:

the Peloton classes I've taken.

864

:

Particularly Jess King, that

instructor, she says something.

865

:

I think a lot of the instructors

say something similar like

866

:

comfortably uncomfortable

867

:

Or like getting uncomfortable

in the uncomfortable, and

868

:

something along those lines.

869

:

And I think.

870

:

That along with actions speak louder than

words would be my two guiding principles.

871

:

Mostly because I think there's a

difference in being like, uncomfortable,

872

:

like this makes you feel like unsafe,

insecure, like that kind of thing.

873

:

Like not that, but like, if you are

pursuing something and it's different

874

:

and it's new and you're uncomfortable,

getting comfortable, being uncomfortable

875

:

will serve you in the longer run.

876

:

Because if you stay in your

comfort zone all the time, then

877

:

we're not pushing it and growing.

878

:

And I think that's my guiding principle.

879

:

I like to grow and change.

880

:

I may resist it like hell

sometimes, but I like it.

881

:

And I think that's I like to show up that

way for my friends, like particularly ones

882

:

who are also interested in self-growth.

883

:

I'm like, okay,

884

:

Christine: Yeah,

885

:

Alexandra: What makes you uncomfortable?

886

:

How do we get there?

887

:

Even if it's like, Hey, I need a

friend to go with me to do something.

888

:

'cause I'm super uncomfortable

and I would like a tether there.

889

:

Or like, I would like a, a familiar face.

890

:

I'd be like, okay, let's go.

891

:

Let's do it.

892

:

Let.

893

:

Christine: Yeah, I definitely, well,

things are also just easier with a friend.

894

:

Alexandra: Supportive.

895

:

Christine: yeah, definitely

896

:

Alexandra: All right.

897

:

So Christie, how do you plan to be more

intentional with your words to yourself

898

:

and others in your everyday life?

899

:

Mostly to yourself.

900

:

Christine: I think just being

mindful of not only just like how

901

:

you were saying, a cheerleader for

others, but being a cheerleader

902

:

for yourself and in moments of.

903

:

Of self-doubt, like remembering like

conversations like this or, sayings

904

:

from when we, when I was a kid and

just trying to see the good in is

905

:

definitely how I hope to be more

intentional with things in my everyday.

906

:

So yeah.

907

:

How about you?

908

:

How are you planning to be

more intentional with your

909

:

words in everyday life?

910

:

Alexandra: I think,

911

:

I think trying to reflect on the

progress that I've made, not so much

912

:

focus on what I haven't accomplished

yet, because I think that for

913

:

myself, puts me into that place of

914

:

talking more negatively about myself.

915

:

So trying to look back and say, wow, look

at, look at the progress I have made.

916

:

Or you talked about how difficult

it can be to, to love yourself.

917

:

Like it, you, you right now,

love yourself as much as you

918

:

have ever loved your yourself.

919

:

But it still may not easy.

920

:

So maybe.

921

:

I think I'm wanting try this week, going

every day, finding something about myself

922

:

my body, the way I think, something that

I love and, and actually telling myself

923

:

I love that part about me in the mirror.

924

:

I know we've briefly talked about

mirror work in one of our, like

925

:

self-help episodes or something

which is very, very hard to do.

926

:

I find it difficult to do, to look

myself in the eyes, in the mirror and

927

:

say nice things about myself, but I think

that's something I would like to try

928

:

this week and be more intentional with

and say like, every day I wanna say,

929

:

find one thing that I love about myself.

930

:

It doesn't have to be big.

931

:

It doesn't have to be

like, oh, I, I love me.

932

:

You know, like, but is there

something that I can start with?

933

:

Christine: Sure.

934

:

Definitely.

935

:

Alexandra: I think that's what, and

then I think that will bleed out

936

:

into how I show up for other people.

937

:

Christine: Awesome.

938

:

Well, I know I mentioned earlier in

the conversation, but do you write down

939

:

or collect words in, in a journal or

940

:

Like that?

941

:

Alexandra: no I haven't recently, but

now I kind of wanna start, I kind of

942

:

wanna start like maybe find a, a notebook

that can, I can have like bursting

943

:

with the seams or something and just,

944

:

Christine: Yeah.

945

:

Alexandra: Maybe print out pictures or,

you know, of quotes or something or write

946

:

things out and kind of, I think that

would be a really fun project to do.

947

:

So

948

:

Christine: It's definitely my

949

:

Alexandra: to come.

950

:

Christine: journaling.

951

:

I think I'd rather like the act of

writing down something that really

952

:

resonates with me and just sort of,

it, it allows me a moment to like,

953

:

reflect on it and then it's like a nice

reminder, um, that I can come back to.

954

:

I'm a fan.

955

:

Alexandra: the thing I've wanted

to try and I haven't done yet, is I

956

:

create like a monthly vision board

that I put on my phone screen.

957

:

So like maybe switching or like every

quarter, 'cause I, let's be real, how

958

:

often do I change my phone screen?

959

:

Um, but I think that might be something

I can, could start finding a few

960

:

pictures that I wanna put and say

like, these are the things I wanna

961

:

keep top of mind and finding some

quotes that really connect with that.

962

:

Or, you know, keep it very

front and center because I have

963

:

my phone with me every day,

964

:

Christine: and you definitely

look at it almost all the time,

965

:

so I think that's great idea.

966

:

Alexandra: Yeah.

967

:

Christine: Awesome.

968

:

Alexandra: Well, do you have

any last minute thoughts on

969

:

Christine: I don't

970

:

Alexandra: quoted and noted?

971

:

Christine: I liked this convo.

972

:

That was, that's my last little tidbit.

973

:

Alexandra: Okay.

974

:

Christine: I hope.

975

:

I hope those listening also enjoyed

976

:

Alexandra: So that's a wrap.

977

:

On today's episode, we've explored

how a sentence can land light

978

:

lightning, how words can heal or

wound, and how the right phrase at

979

:

the right time can feel like somebody

handed you a flashlight in the dark.

980

:

Maybe it was a quote that got you through,

maybe it was something a stranger said

981

:

offhand, and it changed everything.

982

:

Or maybe just, maybe it's time you

became the person who speaks those kinds

983

:

of words into somebody else's life.

984

:

Because language is our legacy.

985

:

And whether you whisper it to yourself

in the mirror, text it to a friend at

986

:

2:00 AM or scribble it on a napkin at

a coffee shop, your words carry power.

987

:

Use them with care, with

courage and with curiosity.

988

:

And speaking of curiosity, next week's

episode, we are asking for a friend, and

989

:

yes, it's exactly what it sounds like.

990

:

We're diving into the beautiful,

brave, and sometimes awkward

991

:

art of asking questions.

992

:

Even the dumb ones, especially the dumb

ones, because let's be real, most of us

993

:

are just one silly, honest question away

from the answer we've been waiting for.

994

:

So until then, keep speaking

kindly to others and to yourself,

995

:

and catch you next time.

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