Episode 10
World Built By Words
Episode 10: Lost in the Pages - Exploring Our Passion for Books
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Welcome back to The Mirror Project! Today, Alexandra and Christine are diving into the enchanting world of books. From childhood favorites to current obsessions, join us as we unravel the magic of reading.
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What started the obsession?
Discover what ignited our love for reading and our earliest literary adventures. From Harry Potter to childhood mysteries, we share the stories that sparked our passion for books. Plus, we weigh the pros and cons of paperbacks, digital, and audio formats.
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Current Reads & Influences
Get a glimpse into our current literary fixations and the timeless tales we revisit time and time again. We'll also unveil our TBR list and shout out our favorite book influencers who keep our reading lists overflowing. Sharing our favorite book influencers including Chelsea Cohen (@chelseareads_), Jaysen Headley (@ezeekat), Natasha Polis (@tashapolis), and Regan (@peruseproject). *We have no affiliation with these creators, just enjoy their content.
Books to Film
Delve into the world of book adaptations as we discuss the hits and misses of bringing stories from page to screen. Plus, find out which books we're dreaming of seeing on the big screen.
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Transcript
Hello and welcome to the mirror project.
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:We're your host, Alexandra,
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:Christine: And Christine.
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:Alexandra: and we are so glad
you are joining us today.
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:We are discussing one of our
favorite shared interests books.
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:We are both obsessed with the
worlds that are created with words
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:and a sprinkle of our imagination.
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:Not sure about you all, but I'm
still waiting for my letter to attend
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:a magical university to arrive.
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:Christine: Before we dive into today's
topic, like, subscribe, or follow us
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:on your preferred listening platform.
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:Go ahead, pause, and do
it now before you forget.
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:Don't worry, we won't
get started without you!
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:Alexandra: So let's jump into
our first segment today, which
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:is what started our obsessions.
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:So, Christine, what started your
obsession or your journey with reading?
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:Christine: Well, so my journey with
reading kind of had a rocky start.
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:I struggled in school as a kid and always
felt like, reading was something difficult
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:for me, and I had trouble finding the
joy in it, but I would say once I was
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:in middle school, was when I found like,
that one series that sort of changed
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:the game and made reading a true joy for
me, and I just can't get enough of it.
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:but how about you, Alexandra?
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:How did your
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:journey start?
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:Alexandra: Well, before we jump into
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:that, I was gonna say for those
listening you should see the smile
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:on Christine's face You can just
tell like the nostalgic memory is
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:coming in to paint a visual picture.
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:It's just like somebody almost euphoric
of like memories of books So I share
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:a similar journey to Christine.
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:I believe in our Second episode is
where we talked about mantras and I
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:talked about one of mine, which is
I can't go through How do I go over
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:under and around and that came from?
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:discovering that I had intermittent
dyslexia when I was very, very young.
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:So I hated to read, things would jump
around on the page, teachers thought
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:I was lying, because sometimes the
word saw was saw, and sometimes it
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:was was, and it was just, you know.
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:interesting reading, right?
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:so my parents actually hired a math
tutor to teach me how to read and she
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:worked with me for an entire summer.
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:And my mom later told me the story about
how the math teacher was like are you
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:sure you want me to teach her how to read?
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:Like I'm a math tutor.
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:I don't teach English.
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:And she's like, no, you've, we've
been told how awesome you are.
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:I think you can do it.
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:And she did.
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:She taught me how to read,
but I still hated that.
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:And that was between, I would
say kindergarten and first.
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:And I hated reading.
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:I.
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:I went up through private school
in Southern California, and the one
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:school that I went to from second to
the first part of fifth grade, they
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:would assign these reading lists that
I thought were very dull for children.
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:Like, you know, not totally historical
memoirs, but kind of historical
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:memoirs of wars from the past.
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:And I'm like, what?
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:Christine: Yes.
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:Alexandra: I hate this.
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:I already didn't like reading.
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:Why would I want to read that?
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:so, That was in 5th grade, and my
parents decided to pull me out of that
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:school and put me into a different
school within the same private
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:system, for lack of a better word.
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:It was a certain type of teaching style.
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:Christine: Mm mm-Hmm?
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:Alexandra: And at first I'm like, I
didn't want to leave my friends, but I
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:went from getting like, D's and F's in
grades to getting A's and B's because
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:the school I went to taught differently
and I was really lucky that when I went
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:there in fifth grade, like you, Christine,
I found a book that just changed my
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:entire experience with reading and the
assigned reading list for the new school
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:I went to were difficult, but not as
mind numbingly dull, or at least what
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:I would consider mind numbingly dull,
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:I went from below a fifth grade
reading level to up to a college grade.
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:level of reading within one year.
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:And that, I want to say that was
really due to finding a book series
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:that ignited my passion for reading.
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:And from there, I explored so much more.
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:Christine: I had a very similar journey.
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:Yeah.
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:Alexandra: yeah.
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:And even in school when I had to read
books that I didn't particularly, you
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:know, care for, like, I'm gonna be
honest, in high school, Frankenstein
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:wasn't my favorite, but, you know,
I, was able to enjoy the reading part
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:of it, whether or not the subject
was actually interesting to me.
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:So that was my journey with reading.
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:so Christine, I know you mentioned
that you had a series that changed
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:your life in middle school.
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:So what series were you recalling?
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:Christine: Well, I don't know
if it will surprise many people
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:because it was very popular at
the time and still is to this day.
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:But that series I was talking
about is Harry Potter.
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:I picked Harry Potter up, I want to say, I
can't remember if it was 6th or 7th grade.
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:But, I was gifted, my grandmother
had gifted me either the first
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:book, first two or three books,
and I decided to give it a try.
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:Up until that point, you
know, I watched the films.
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:I very much loved the films and I had
one of the books on tape Back when
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:they were on on cassettes, although
it was the third book so I don't know
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:why but yeah, I had the third book
on tape, but I started reading it and
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:at the time as I mentioned I was You
know, I didn't have a love of reading.
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:I started reading similar to Alexandra's
journey, really struggled in school and
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:had I forget what the classification
is, but a learning disability.
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:And I was, I went to a small Catholic
school, so the resources weren't great.
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:And I was reading below my reading
level, but once I started Harry Potter
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:and I just fell in love with it.
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:The, whole world and the, the journey
of following Harry and all of the
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:antics he and his friends got up to.
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:And over the course of two years,
read through the whole series.
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:I, I must've started in seventh grade then
because I remember Reading those books and
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:then like from there I just couldn't get
enough of reading and I just kept picking
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:stuff up and Yeah, that's what really,
you know, lit the, lit the fire for me.
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:But how about you Alexandra?
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:What, what series ignited
your love of reading?
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:Alexandra: So the one that in 5th grade
turned my experience with reading around
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:and I would probably surprise many people
who know me today to realize that I hated
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:reading because as anyone can attest
to I have a ton of books and not just
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:like, you know, She's got a lot of books.
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:Like, no, I have maybe a bookstores
full across all different media.
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:So
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:Christine: about it, but not a,
not as surprised because we have
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:a similar story, but yeah, it's
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:kind of funny looking back on it.
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:Alexandra: but I'll meet people
and I'll tell them like what
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:I'm reading and they'll be like,
wait you hated to read what?
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:So in fifth grade, I And before this
episode in, you know, our planning
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:of it, I really tried to find the
book that I read, and for the life
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:of me, I cannot find, find it.
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:I don't have it anymore, and I
couldn't find it online because I
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:barely remember the title, but I feel
like it was something I was reading.
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:Along the, like, the lazy hazy days
of Suzy Hayes or something like that.
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:It was very rhymy, but I think
it was about a girl and she was
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:the youngest in a family and I
feel like her dad was a fireman.
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:But something about it really captured
my attention and I just went from there.
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:And then I did read a lot of manga,
which I liked because with a dyslexic
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:brain, reading differently helped.
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:I think when I first tried, like,
started to learn to read, I let, I
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:read right to left, not left to right.
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:I'm just like, you would have done
well had you been learning like maybe
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:Hebrew or something like that, but
it's not the language I was learning.
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:So I don't know.
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:I think the manga kind of just helped.
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:Strengthened that part of my brain
that looked at things differently
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:and also fostered my love of reading.
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:But I got really into the genre
of young adult fiction and like
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:fantasy and so another big series
that started I wouldn't say in fifth
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:grade, but probably sixth or seventh.
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:Maybe 8th was the House of Nights series
written by PCCast and KristenCast,
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:they're mother daughter writers.
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:And then from there it
kind of just expanded.
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:I did kind of enter the Harry
Potter reading game a little late.
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:I feel like, I'm kind of one of those
people that when something is really
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:big, I will stubbornly avoid it.
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:Just because I'm like, I don't
want to just follow a trend.
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:And so then when it kind of
Descends a little bit out of
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:popularity like popularity.
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:That's when I pick it up and I'm like, oh
my gosh, this is amazing I Started reading
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:things by Jane Austen and you know sci fi.
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:I really do like the fiction genre You
know That was the thing that helped.
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:I was like, if I'm going to read
something, I want to go into a world
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:full of imagination and possibilities.
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:I don't want to just necessarily
reread about life here.
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:But while we're on Harry Potter,
Christine, what was your favorite book?
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:Like which storyline got you obsessed?
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:Christine: yeah.
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:It's so funny that you say you don't,
didn't want to hop on the trend.
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:I, I very much hear that because
I, I say that a lot today.
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:And I, I tend to be late
to, to the, the game.
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:But for me, the Harry Potter book
I loved the best, it changes.
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:But I think.
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:It's a tie for me between the third
and, I think the third one wins out,
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:but it's a close, it's a close tie
between the third and the fourth.
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:I, remember when I was reading the
series, the fourth was my favorite.
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:It just was like, really fun to bring in
all these different other magical schools
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:and like, see the world grow even more
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:beyond Hogwarts.
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:But when I look back on the series,
and I haven't reread it, I only read
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:it once I do have the audiobooks
but I haven't gone back to that
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:series since I was in middle school.
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:And I kind of like that, it,
it lives in the, it has this
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:nice nostalgic memory for me.
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:And looking back on that, I think
the third one is my favorite.
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:Just because it's, they're
starting to be teenagers.
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:It's like, you know, I really liked the
introduction of Sirius Black, you know,
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:at the end, that whole twist and sort of
learning more about Harry's personality.
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:parents through these other
characters, because up until that
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:point, these, these three kids are
just getting into trouble at school.
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:But this is like, this, I feel like book
three was the founding, like it was the
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:beginning of where the story was gonna go.
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:So that, that's for me.
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:But how about you?
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:Do you have a favorite one?
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:Alexandra: Kind of
similar to you, Christine.
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:I actually, so it's.
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:I'm trying to think of
how I really got into it.
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:So I think one of my first more
experience experiences was with Harry
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:Potter was a friend of mine at the time.
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:Do you remember the scenic games?
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:The ones that you would
play on the television?
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:Okay.
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:So she had a scenic Harry Potter
and the chamber of secrets.
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:Mind you, I had never read a book,
never read a Harry Potter, never seen
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:the movies, hadn't listened to them.
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:And I somehow managed to.
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:To beat her in that game.
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:And I'm like, and she was
obsessed with Harry Potter.
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:I was like, how did, how did
you not know these answers?
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:And I have never seen,
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:yeah, I was like, I was
like, Oh, interesting.
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:So,
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:Christine: must be psychic.
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:Like you could just,
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:Alexandra: oh, Oh, I just, I think I am.
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:We could totally get
into that another day.
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:But anyways, so that kind of started it.
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:It wasn't a huge fan of snakes, and
that was like a big theme of that
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:second one, and I was like, hmm.
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:But it was really seeing the third movie
that got me into the series, Like You.
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:It was kind of like the one that
really piqued my interest, but
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:if I had to pick a favorite book,
it's probably the fourth one.
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:I loved the detail.
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:And I want to come back to this later
in the episode where we talk about the
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:transition of film books to film or TV.
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:Cause I have
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:Christine: You have thoughts?
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:Alexandra: a thought about that,
particularly the fourth one.
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:So if I forget, please
help me remember Christine.
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:Christine: before we jump forward,
I just, I was thinking about other
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:series that, Of the time, like I said,
I, so I went through Harry Potter,
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:and then I remember I read Angels and
Demons by Dan Brown, and I went to a,
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:I went to a Catholic school, I
don't know how many times I've
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:mentioned it at this point, but
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:Alexandra: a
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:Christine: anyway, we know
this about me now but I
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:remember distinctly walking in,
cause like, at school, you, You
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:didn't carry your backpack around.
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:We just carried our books from class
to class when we were in middle school.
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:Kind of weird looking
back on that right now.
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:But I carried around my book
with me because if there was
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:some downtime, I would read.
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:And I had, I had angels and
demons on top of my books.
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:And I walked into my religion class
and my religion teacher just looked at
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:me Judging me so hard as you know, oh
that catholic guilt man, but yeah, she
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:Alexandra: think as only a nun could,
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:you
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:Christine: wasn't a nun
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:Alexandra: Or were they?
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:Oh, they weren't nuns.
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:Oh, okay, because when my mom went
to parochial school, she had, right?
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:Parochial school?
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:That's another version.
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:Anywho, she had a nun who was like,
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:Christine: Yeah, no, she she wasn't
a nun but she she was a very devout
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:woman and She wasn't married like
she made the choice to just Live her
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:life and focus on religion and, and that's
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:Alexandra: interesting reading
choice though to bring to
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:a
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:Christine: I didn't think about it.
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:I didn't really think about it.
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:I was just like, this is really cool.
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:And it, it, it kind of was like,
oh, all these like conspiracies that
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:are within the, the, the religion
that I've been set, like, I've
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:been practicing my whole
life up until that point.
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:So I just, I just wanted to
share that funny little story,
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:but then another one, also not,
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:Alexandra: That was a good
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:book.
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:Christine: was, and I actually haven't
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:read the other ones in the series.
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:I've seen, because I know Da Vinci
Code came out first, even though
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:I think it came out after, yeah,
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:Alexandra: it's a second book.
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:Mm hmm,
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:Christine: out,
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:yeah, after Angels and
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:Alexandra: I've read both of those, but
I don't think I've read Dan Brown's.
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:Was the third one Lost
Symbol or something?
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:Anyways, I think I've only read those two.
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:Christine: Yeah.
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:Alexandra: Oh, I haven't
read that one or seen it.
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:I haven't
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:Christine: haven't either.
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:But, and that, and, you know, actually
that, that's the book I want to bring
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:up later when we talk about books
to film because I have thoughts, but
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:another series that might not come
to be a surprise because I was in
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:eighth grade when the Twilight movie
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:Alexandra: Oh, I was
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:Christine: and, girl, you know,
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:I was,
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:Alexandra: justice to
this segment without,
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:you know, talking about
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:Christine: girl, I was hardcore in it.
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:I read, because also, Breaking
Dawn didn't come out until my
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:freshman year of high school.
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:So I remember reading the three books,
the first movie came out, Breaking
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:Dawn came out, and I still have all
those books, and Breaking Dawn is
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:the only one I have in hardcover.
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:But,
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:Alexandra: I don't think I have my copies
anymore and I had a full set in hardcover.
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:I do have them digitally, but
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:going to share something
slightly embarrassing.
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:I was a total tween at the time.
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:I think I saw the first movie five
times in theaters and it was so bad.
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:Like, objectively, the movie was terrible.
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:Christine: I watched, and I watched
those movies back recently because
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:I got swept up in this nostalgia.
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:I don't think I'll read the
books again, but I was like, I
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:gotta watch these films again.
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:And, oh my god.
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:It's so good.
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:Like, it's so bad it's good.
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:Like, that's the level for me.
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:Alexandra: Some of the really
cringe moments of acting though
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:in the first one, I'm like, Oh,
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:Christine: Yes.
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:Alexandra: okay.
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:I would say I would recommend if you have
time giving the series a reread through
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:as an adult, very different perspective,
I feel like than when I was a teenager.
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:So I was like, Hmm, okay,
maybe I have a bit more.
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:interesting perspective of going into it.
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:So I would recommend, and I would
almost think that would be the same with
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:any like childhood favorite, kind of
going back and rereading and see what
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:characters you still resonate with.
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:In other words, you're like, Oh,
I hated you when I was little.
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:I kind of get it now.
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:Or like, Oh, you're still terrible.
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:Christine: Yeah.
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:And then just speaking on that
I, you know, the fifth one, the
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:fifth Harry, sorry, jumping series,
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:bear
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:with me, but just jumping back
to Harry Potter for a second,
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:the fifth Harry Potter book, I.
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:Yeah, it was the fifth one.
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:I hated it at the time when I read it.
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:Probably because I was, like,
13, 14, like almost 15 at the
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:time that I was reading it.
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:And I just, like, this is awful.
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:But it was probably because I was going
through what Harry's going through.
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:Like, he's an angsty teen, like.
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:And he's like, holy shit, I'm an orphan.
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:And all of these people
around me keep dying.
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:And I'm suddenly, like, I
got all this pressure on my
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:shoulders being the chosen one.
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:Anyway, so just to your
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:point I think maybe one day
I'll go back and try and reread
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:book five of Harry Potter, but
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:Alexandra: Well, I know
we've talked about it enough.
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:We've talked about different formats.
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:So in this first section, why don't
we dive into what are our preferred
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:formats, either, you know, paper,
hardback, audio, or digital, and what
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:are our pros and cons of each format?
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:Christine: Well, I'm happy to, So,
I have been and always will be a
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:ride or die fan of physical books.
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:I love them.
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:I love the smell of them.
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:Like, I kind of, weirdo and I love to
just smell my book every once in a while.
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:Cause it's like,
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:Alexandra: Can you guys just
picture Christine in a corner
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:huffing a book just like,
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:Christine: oh,
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:gosh, yeah, that's, that's a visual.
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:Getting high on books.
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:No, I just love, like, I just love
the feel in my hands, and Behind
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:me, I'm, I'll paint the picture,
behind me is just a bookshelf.
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:Basically floor to ceiling, full of my, my
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:Alexandra: Mostly hardbacks.
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:You do have some paperbacks in
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:Christine: know, it's kind of funny.
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:I, there, I do have, I would
say I'm probably 50 50 with
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:hardbacks to paperback.
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:Maybe it leans a little more one way.
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:I'm not totally sure.
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:Alexandra: So you haven't counted?
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:Christine: I haven't in a while and
I've gotten some new books recently.
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:So, yeah, I don't, I don't
know where I'm at currently.
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:But I've also, like,
offloaded so many in the past.
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:Like, I've shared some
with friends and donated a
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:bunch.
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:But Yeah, so I've always been a
ride or die fan of physical books.
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:I would say in the last five How
long has we been out of college?
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:Alexandra: 2016?
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:Nope, 17.
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:2017 we graduated.
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:Christine: Yeah, 2017 we graduated.
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:So since then I started
dipping my toe into audiobooks.
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:I got like an Audible account and My
enjoyment of audiobooks has only grown
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:since then because I used to have like
an hour's commute to work one way, and
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:drive around a lot, I feel like I'm always
driving somewhere so I, I love to pop on
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:an audiobook and have, you know, enjoyed a
lot of series, actually, that way, instead
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:of doing physical reading physical books.
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:And in the last couple of years, I've
read a handful of books, physical
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:books, but they've mostly been audio.
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:So those are my two favorite.
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:How about you, Alexandra?
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:Hmm.
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:Alexandra: I love physical books.
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:I almost want to say I enjoy that
paperbacks are lighter than hardbacks,
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:but I like hardbacks because they like
don't splay and, you know, kind of
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:get bent corners and kind of funky.
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:And sometimes I just love the look of
sometimes the old leather bound books.
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:So there's a couple, I did not write
down their names with Instagram
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:accounts where they like re bind books.
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:I'm just like, Oh,
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:Christine: It's very popular right now.
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:Yeah.
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:And
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:Alexandra: like, that's kind
of a skill I'd love to learn.
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:I'm not really sure what for, but
like, it would just be kind of fun
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:Christine: And then, I just have a
quick anecdote about that, because
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:back, like, I don't even know when,
but long ago, that's, when you bought
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:a book, you bought a book unbound.
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:So you bought, so you went and
you had your book bound so that
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:it fit the library that you had.
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:And I feel like that's
become a thing again.
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:People buy the paperback and
then they, you know, rip off
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:the cover and bind them again.
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:Hmm.
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:Alexandra: can't remember the
company, but we were talking
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:about Harry Potter earlier.
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:And there was a company
that you could order.
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:The full set of Harry Potter books
and and I think a couple other series,
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:but it wasn't a super expansive list
And you could say I want it in blue
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:leather or brown leather, pleather,
whatever material they use and how
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:you wanted it bound And that was
before I think that revitalization
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:of like people rebinding their books.
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:So that just made me think of
that like I so You know the
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:library from Beauty and the
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:Christine: Yes.
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:Oh, I do.
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:Alexandra: I want that library
I want that library with all
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:the beautifully bound books.
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:So but from my move to, from California
to New Jersey and down, I offloaded
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:so many books and some I'm very sad.
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:I let go and I'm
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:like, so I love paper hardback.
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:My one downside is that because I do
love to read so much and I read quickly,
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:I can only carry so much with me.
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:I remember I visited my
family, my dad's family in.
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:North Carolina, when I was
still living in California.
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:And I think I had an entire
duffel bag worth of books.
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:And I was like, this is.
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:ideal.
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:Most of my suitcase was
books, which I love.
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:However, kind of heavy, kind of
cumbersome, you know, so that sucks.
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:So I really got into, and once I really
started loving to read, my parents
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:could never say no to me buying a book.
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:I remember the only time I almost, when
I was like young teenager, I almost
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:overdrafted my checking account was
I was at borders trying to buy some
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:Christine: R.
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:I.
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:P.
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:Alexandra: Bye bye borders.
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:So, I love, love physical books, hardback.
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:I really, Barnes Noble though, when
they came out with their Nook, my
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:parents bought me one and I, no joke.
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:Christine: How many books you
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:got on there?
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:Alexandra: up.
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:books
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:Christine: Holy
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:Alexandra: have now on my Nook.
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:And let me see how many I have on Audible.
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:Does it give you a count?
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:Christine: Yeah, I think I'm at a hundred.
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:Where you at?
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:Alexandra: I have 123 books.
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:Unaudible.
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:And that's not to count all
the ones I have in paperback.
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:So I have a lot of books.
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:So that is the downside of paper.
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:I feel like I love, like you
said, that feel kind of crawling
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:up in a chair, reading a book.
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:But I love my digital and audio audio
libraries for when I'm on the go because I
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:can carry Clearly, nearly a thousand books
in my pocket which is great when I travel
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:because then I can flip between books and
like, if I finish one in the middle of
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:a journey, then I don't have to be like,
oh, well, I don't have something to read.
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:But the benefit of audio, I would
say over digital or paper is that
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:I can listen to it while I drive
sometimes while I work on a data
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:project, which I'm not super, you know.
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:Doesn't take up a whole lot
of mental space or long car
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:rides or going for a walk.
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:And the, the one pro and con, I would
say specifically about audio books.
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:And I don't know, Christine, if you've
had this experience that the voice
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:performer can make or break a story.
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:And there's books that I have.
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:There's digital copies of, physical copies
of, and an audio copy of because I will
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:read them different ways or listen to.
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:And then there's a series that we'll
get into later that I absolutely love.
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:And I think I bought it on
Audible the first one and the
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:voice performer was horrendous.
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:It was atrocious.
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:Literally I returned it through Audible
and I remember checking out the, the,
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:the reviews and all of them was like,
really interesting story, creative world.
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:Shit
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:reader.
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:Terrible reader.
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:And they still hired the same
person to read all of the
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:books, and I'm like, no!
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:So that's one of the things, but if you
find like good audio performers, voice
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:performers, I love listening to them
because that is really how I think I first
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:read, listened to Harry Potter, was I had
the, the books by, read by Jim Dale, and
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:that's where I started with Harry Potter.
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:Once I got into it, it was like I
listened to it, and then I went back and
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:read the books, and Such a good story.
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:But yeah, I think a voice performer
can make or break an audio experience.
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:Those are my pros and cons.
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:Cons of papers, I can't take it
everywhere, or as many as I would like.
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:Pros of digital is that I can take
so much, but it's not always the
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:same as reading a physical, and the,
I think audible is, audible reading
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:is a category of all of its own.
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:Christine recently mentioned
that she might be stopping her
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:audible account to listen through
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:Christine: Spotify.
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:You get 15 hours with Spotify.
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:Premium, I forget.
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:Yeah.
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:Alexandra: So, I don't think, I thought
about this week, I don't think that
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:would be for me because I listened
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:to 11 hours in two days and I was like,
I think, I think that would be a problem.
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:I feel like, oh, dang, three days over
and I'm already, you know, can't listen to
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:Christine: Yeah, no, I hear you I I'm
kind of in the same boat where I get
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:I go through that really quickly but
I understand what you're saying, that
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:15 hours isn't a lot in like, the
grand scheme of things, especially
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:if you're quick to go through it, but
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:Alexandra: Or like if you pop it
on when you don't really, you know,
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:Realize how long you listen to
things like if you're driving to
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:and from some place and you're like,
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:oh those 10 minute drives add
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:up
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:Christine: do.
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:And you have to be careful because
this happened to me last month where I
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:accidentally fell asleep while listening.
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:And so I had to go back and re
listen to what I missed, but that
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:meant that I lost however long
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:from my 15 hour allotment that month.
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:So I literally had an hour left of the
book and I had to wait like two weeks
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:before I could finish it because my, It
just really was a bummer, but I did finish
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:it.
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:Alexandra: You
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:Christine: I did go back and finish
that book, but it did kind of take
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:the momentum out of it because I
think like when it comes to audiobooks
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:Alexandra: cool.
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:Christine: of have to stay in
it because otherwise Physical
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:books and I get you know, I'm not
a huge electronic book reader.
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:I've done it here and there over
the years, but it's so much easier
545
:to pick up and put down that
when you're doing an audio book.
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:I feel like you gotta stick with
it and just sort of, I don't know,
547
:maybe I'm, I'm alone in that one.
548
:But, I don't know, that's
just how I felt feel about it.
549
:All right, so we've covered all of the,
our basis on the books we were obsessed
550
:with and what ignited our reading journey.
551
:And now why don't we talk about
our current reads or recent
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:reads that we are obsessed with.
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:Alexandra, why don't you kick us off?
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:What are your obsessions right now?
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:Alexandra: What I'm a huge re reader.
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:Like, I love to re read books that
I really enjoy and particularly if I
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:have to wait a while for, like, the
next book in a series to come out,
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:I'll go back and re read right before
it comes out so I can be caught up.
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:Christine: I find
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:That for me, I'm a better rereader
at audiobooks than physical
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:books, but that's just me.
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:Alexandra: really.
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:Um, So one of my favorite series is The
Dark in You series by Susan Seesmore.
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:She's an English writer.
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:and
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:it's,
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:Christine: her work.
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:Alexandra: book that I was talking about.
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:What?
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:Christine: with her work.
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:Alexandra: I think I turned
Christine on to the series.
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:This is the series that I
said that the Audible book was
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:just a horrendous performer.
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:It made the character
sound like Valley Girls
575
:Christine: Oh yeah.
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:That's how I'm consuming
that, those books.
577
:I'm not, I'm not, I'm
listening to the audio.
578
:So I'm, I'm
579
:deep in her, yeah.
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:Alexandra: Okay.
581
:Christine: I've, I've, looked past
her voice enough to stick with it, but
582
:Yeah, she's not the greatest.
583
:I
584
:Alexandra: Um.
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:Yeah, I was like, and I love that
series and the first 15 20 minutes
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:of that I was like, I can't do this.
587
:It'll destroy my love of this book.
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:So I really like those series very
creative characters and the whole world.
589
:So that, that is one of the
ones I will always go back to.
590
:And I know she had recently
released the one about Larkin.
591
:Hunted?
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:Christine: she's up to book
593
:nine.
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:Yeah, she's got
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:Alexandra: Yeah.
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:Christine: A lot of
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:Alexandra: it is, and I'm like,
598
:Christine: she's found success in
there, in that, in that world for sure.
599
:Alexandra: there was another
series that I have recently come
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:back to, and that was the Mercy
Thompson series by Patricia Briggs.
601
:I think I first found it when I
was in high school, but I really
602
:only ever read or listened to
the first four, maybe five books.
603
:And so, and I have more of the Audio
books, I think, than the digital copies.
604
:So I have really this time gone past where
I had stopped and into the next ones.
605
:And I really have been enjoying them.
606
:They're just, I think they're
right now my current obsession.
607
:And since we already have marked our show
as explicit, I feel bad and saying, I
608
:also enjoy romance and smutty romance.
609
:It's great.
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:Christine: great.
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:Alexandra: So
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:Christine: Do you, do you, no, I was
just going to say like, listening
613
:to a smutty romance book it's like,
614
:Alexandra: So,
615
:um, you're like, I'm like, excuse me,
I need to, to, to go away for a minute.
616
:So that was a book that I
listened to this past week.
617
:The one that I listened
to that was like 11 hours.
618
:I listened to it because the voice
performer is somebody who I really like.
619
:I love her voice and how she
does different characters.
620
:And she I was reading this one book
and I was like, I'll give it a try.
621
:It's just a generic fiction romance,
like enemies to lovers kind.
622
:The entire time I was like, I think
I have learned things about myself
623
:that I like that I wasn't aware of.
624
:But yeah, that was, that
was a really good one.
625
:And I think that was
called If You Hate Me.
626
:And I'm already like, When
is the next one coming out?
627
:So those are my current reads, but
I'm also very much into, like, self
628
:transformation, self help inner
work, so I've got a lot of that.
629
:As Christine knows, I talk about the
ones that I'm reading and working
630
:on and So yeah, I usually have like
three or four books running at a
631
:time between different formats.
632
:So right now, I'm currently reading
Mindfulness for a More Creative
633
:Life for one of my MBA classes.
634
:But I'm actually enjoying the content
listening to Patricia Briggs book.
635
:And I'm reading, I think,
a romance about And,
636
:Christine: That's one thing I didn't bring
up in the, in our last section is like,
637
:in addition to Harry Potter and Twilight,
I was a big fan of pirate like stories.
638
:Like, you know, love
stories and Greek mythology
639
:retold, retellings.
640
:I was
641
:really big into that in like,
middle school, high school.
642
:But
643
:Alexandra: Same.
644
:I love Greek mythology.
645
:I'll have to tell you.
646
:So I'm trying to dwindle down
my digital library a bit to
647
:the books that I really like.
648
:So I'm trying to force myself to read
books that I also enjoy reading, but
649
:the ones that maybe I haven't read in
a long time or bought and never read.
650
:And then like, if I don't like
it, I'm going to be a bit more
651
:strict with myself with moving it
to the archive so I can delete it.
652
:But I will tell you the title if you
want to Jump on my Nook app and read
653
:it before it disappears, because it's
like, it's okay, but it's not, I don't
654
:think it'll be one that I go back to
but it's, yeah, I was like, ah, I can,
655
:taste, evolve, differ but yeah, so, that's
the stuff that I'm currently listening
656
:to so what series do you go back to?
657
:I know you said you don't often
reread, but is there one that you will
658
:Christine: so,
659
:Alexandra: multiple times?
660
:Christine: yeah, I, You mentioned
that you found a love for Jane Austen.
661
:I also, and one of my favorites
is Pride and Prejudice.
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:Love Pride and Prejudice.
663
:I've read it a couple of times.
664
:I probably would love to
go back and re read that.
665
:And, you know, there's just certain
books, especially if you love them,
666
:going back at different points
in your life and reading it, even
667
:though you know the story, you're,
668
:you're changing.
669
:So, like, how you're enjoying
and interpreting what's being
670
:what you're reading is always
going to be a little different.
671
:So Pride and Prejudice is one.
672
:So to your point about how like you
reread things because you're waiting
673
:for the next book to come, I'm kind
of the person who is, who's like, I'll
674
:just wait until the series is all out.
675
:So I don't have to wait because my
memory is like, And I don't necessarily
676
:want to
677
:keep rereading, not because I
don't want to reread, but like,
678
:there's so many books to read.
679
:So I started reading years ago,
like when it was first coming out.
680
:And Sarah J Maas is now like huge.
681
:I started reading Throne of Glass
and I read the first two books and
682
:I have, I, I've lent out a couple
of my, of my copies to my sister.
683
:So I think I have.
684
:One, two, I think I have five.
685
:The first five, including the prequel.
686
:And I read the first two books.
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:So I think I'm I reread the first one.
688
:I actually
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:listened to it.
690
:So I want to, you know,
finish that series out.
691
:Because I did really love it.
692
:And then the other series, I
did start, but didn't finish.
693
:And I read it When it first came
out and now it's like blown up is a
694
:court of thorns and roses Which
695
:people call a catar?
696
:Alexandra: yes, I think I've only
listened to the first book of
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:Akatar.
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:Akatar.
699
:You know what I mean.
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:Christine: Yeah
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:Alexandra: But you've
told me about the Sarah J.
702
:Maas book.
703
:I feel like I listened to the
first one in that series, or
704
:maybe one of her other series.
705
:I think it was a Sarah J.
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:Christine: hmm.
707
:I think one of our first proper
conversations back in college, like,
708
:that we, I remember we met up at the
Duncan on campus and we were talking
709
:about books that we loved and I was like,
710
:I just read this book and I was
telling you about, about the
711
:story and how she's like a female
712
:assassin and she's in this,
like, tournament to be the king's
713
:champion and you were like, oh
714
:wow, this is sick.
715
:Yeah, yeah.
716
:And you were, you, you were sharing,
oh, what series did you share with me?
717
:Was it Vampire Academy?
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:We were talking about
719
:Alexandra: Oh, I love that series.
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:Christine: Yeah,
721
:you were sharing your love of that series.
722
:I don't know if you had just
read it or we were just talking
723
:about books that we loved,
724
:Alexandra: be.
725
:gosh.
726
:There's so many series that we
do love that I feel like we would
727
:have a and a half hour episode
728
:Christine: could have a whole
nother podcast just on books.
729
:Alexandra: both.
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:Christine: Who knows, maybe one day.
731
:But, yeah, so
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:those, those are ones
that I'd probably re read.
733
:But my current obsession, and we've
talked about this fourth wing, I, like we
734
:said, not one to, you know, get
on the hype bandwagon, but, for
735
:me at least, I was, I was gifted
it for my birthday and I loved it.
736
:And I got the second, the second book
and we weren't like, I, I did like it.
737
:I did enjoy it because it was
further expanding the world, but
738
:it wasn't like looking back on it.
739
:I had to sit with it for a little
bit and sort of feel the feels.
740
:Not that there was necessarily, I
think it was rushed, ultimately.
741
:Like, she released the
two books in a year.
742
:That's, that's a big feat to do,
especially in the fantasy genre.
743
:Alexandra: yeah,
744
:Christine: yeah, Fourth
Wing was, was a good one.
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:Alexandra: I think it was that.
746
:Sort of accident that I got that book.
747
:I think audible is doing one of
their two for one credit sales.
748
:And there was another book that I
really wanted on my wishlist in it.
749
:And that was one of the ones
fourth one came up as one that
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:you could do for the sale.
751
:And so that's how I, I was like,
752
:Christine: Yeah.
753
:Alexandra: sure, let me try it.
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:And I liked the performer's voice
and how she read the characters.
755
:Christine: Oh,
756
:okay.
757
:Yeah, that was when I physically read.
758
:I didn't do the audio book, so.
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:Also, and this just because I'm,
I don't know, grumpy millennial.
760
:But The fact that inside of my copy
of Fourth Wing, which I don't have
761
:right now, I lent it to my sister.
762
:My sister has a lot of my books right now.
763
:She it had like a page,
like, praised from BookTalk.
764
:And I was like,
765
:Alexandra: Yes.
766
:That's a
767
:big thing
768
:now.
769
:Like, uh,
770
:Like,
771
:a book talk author or,
772
:Christine: Yeah, and
I'm like, you know what?
773
:I'm all here for book,
like, TikTok helping
774
:authors, you know, expand their reach and
find new readers, but why is it in print?
775
:And it, it became, it came before, like
you know how there's that page where
776
:it's like reviews from other authors,
like, they give, like, a one liner?
777
:It came before that, and
I was like, it Gave me the
778
:Alexandra: sometimes I think Jen's
cause I think you and I both fall
779
:in that weird and selenial category.
780
:Like we're very tail end of
millennial, but we are not Gen Z.
781
:And so yeah, I think sometimes when I
listened to Gen Z speak, I'm like, what?
782
:Language, are you talking about?
783
:What are you saying?
784
:Christine: How am I somehow 60 years old?
785
:But.
786
:Alexandra: you know
what I just heard today?
787
:We could say we were born in the 1900s,
which is both accurate and frightening
788
:to people who are younger than us.
789
:Yeah,
790
:I
791
:Christine: Let's.
792
:Alexandra: born in a whole
other century, you know?
793
:Anyways,
794
:Christine: So yeah,
795
:that's one of my current obsessions.
796
:Maybe I'll reread it.
797
:I'm not yet sure.
798
:I might want to explore like
other, the audio version.
799
:Maybe that's how I'll reread it, but
800
:Alexandra: can I jump in with a question?
801
:Did you ever get into the
historical romance type genre?
802
:Oh, yeah, that was a
big thing in high school
803
:Christine: Mm hmm.
804
:Big historical
805
:romance fan.
806
:Yeah.
807
:I mean, I love Jane Austen.
808
:So I've listened to, The first
few Bridgerton books, like that,
809
:that, cause I love the show.
810
:So I've listened to the books.
811
:The show is way better, but that'd be
fun to talk about in our next section.
812
:But I'm currently reading and obsessed
with because I love this author
813
:so much is Malibu Rising by Taylor
Jenkins Reid, who is the author
814
:of the book I gifted you for Christmas.
815
:the Seven has
816
:Alexandra: Wives of England.
817
:Christine: seven husbands of Evelyn Hugo.
818
:So I've read that one by her, I've read
Daisy Jones and the Sixth by her, and
819
:this is my third book I'm reading of hers.
820
:And I, kid you not, I don't typically
cry when I read books, but I have
821
:cried every book that I've read by her.
822
:I love her writing so much, it's, I have
a little bit of a girl crush on her.
823
:Like, I just love everything, and I
love how her stories I'm discovering.
824
:I don't think Daisy Jones connects
in, but there's a tie in from
825
:Evelyn Hugo to Malibu rising.
826
:And then to this the next book she
released, which I think is Carrie
827
:Soto's comeback or something like that.
828
:That's another book.
829
:And so there's characters that
appear in each of those three.
830
:So there's like subtle tie ins,
which I think is just so nice.
831
:So, and, but it's not like if you
don't read all of her books, like
832
:if you just read one of her books,
like it's not like, Oh, you have
833
:to go and read these other books,
834
:but yeah.
835
:So that's my current read and obsession,
836
:Alexandra: Very cool.
837
:So what books are on your TBR right
838
:now?
839
:Christine: God.
840
:I.
841
:Alexandra: I don't mean the
whole list, because, again,
842
:I think that would be another
843
:Christine: it's a never ending list.
844
:I don't think I'll ever, there
might be books, I actually went
845
:through my Goodreads and like,
took books off that I've just, face
846
:facts, I'm never going to read.
847
:But, a couple of them I mentioned
when we were talking about series
848
:we are gonna, Reread so I want to
849
:finish.
850
:I want to read through Throne of Glass.
851
:Akatar.
852
:She's got another series.
853
:I think it's called Oh, what's it called?
854
:Crescent City, I think is
that is that is that series so
855
:Alexandra: Yes.
856
:I think I have the first book on
audible, but I haven't listened to it.
857
:I think that's when I bought.
858
:Christine: Yeah, so those those
are on my tbr and then I a
859
:couple I think it's in February.
860
:I read Children of Blood
and Bone, which was amazing.
861
:I and I have the second one,
but she has a third one coming
862
:out, so I want to finish those.
863
:One that's been on my TBR for a long
time and I've been seeing a lot more
864
:recently on social media is A Little
Life, which is a long book, but it
865
:follows, if I, If I remember correctly,
it follows the story of, I think
866
:it's four roommates, right after they
graduate college, and like, where their
867
:lives take them for several years,
and it just follows their storyline.
868
:I think, everything I've heard
about it, it sounds lovely, so
869
:that is one I do want to read.
870
:The Vanishing Half is another,
which is by Britt Bennett my friend
871
:Tori just read it and she loved
it, so I'm very excited to read it.
872
:And, you know, anything by Taylor
Jenkins Reid, I'm gonna definitely read.
873
:And the last, and actually I didn't talk
about this series, but it is one that
874
:I have re read and would love to read
again, is A Darker Shade of Magic by V.
875
:E.
876
:Schwab.
877
:Love V.
878
:E.
879
:Schwab, but she has a new book that came
out in that world called Threads of Power.
880
:So I'm gonna dive into
to that series as well.
881
:Those are currently
882
:at the top of my list.
883
:So a lot of fantasy, some
contemporary And then who knows.
884
:There's always, I also, I haven't talked
about it much but I'm a huge fan of
885
:Murder Mystery and Mysteries books.
886
:So, I'm kind of taking a break
from that but I, I definitely love
887
:that like I love Agatha Christie.
888
:Actually, the shelf behind me is
covered in Agatha Christie books.
889
:So yeah.
890
:That's, that's my TBR list.
891
:How about you?
892
:Alexandra: I'm trying to
think I've got a lot of
893
:I don't know if it's like self
transformation self help books kind of.
894
:Queued up more on the mindfulness
kind of spectrum things like becoming
895
:supernatural by Joe Disprenza.
896
:So I like a lot of that
metaphysics type things.
897
:So I have quite a few like that
one E squared by Pam grout.
898
:But in terms of fiction, I think I want to
get back to I'm trying to find the title.
899
:It's one I listened to via audio and
I think the first one is not that one.
900
:It's by Jennifer L.
901
:Armantrout something from Blood and Ash.
902
:I think that's the first one.
903
:that was really good.
904
:Obviously the Mercy Thompson
one, so finishing out that
905
:series, at least to what's out.
906
:There's a really good series that
I like by Shandell LaVaughn, and I
907
:like the reader who reads the series.
908
:I think I read the first two series.
909
:It's all about witches and it's a very
cool world that she builds and it crosses
910
:like Academy magic, elemental magic.
911
:And then there's kind of a newer one.
912
:Oh, it's narrated by Vanessa
Moy and I like her voice.
913
:And there's another
one by Kelly Armstrong.
914
:I actually really liked that author.
915
:She wrote a couple of books in the
young adult genre that I really
916
:loved, but she has a series.
917
:The first one is called Cursed Luck and
I like the narrator of that one too, so
918
:I'm hoping, I think she has the third book
out, so I'm hoping it's done into audio
919
:soon so I can just listen to it that way.
920
:But yeah, that's mostly what's on my TBR,
and then, as you know, I'm obsessed with
921
:All things tarot, cards, witch related,
so I've got a long TBR on that topic.
922
:So those are mine.
923
:Christine: Do you ever listen to
audiobooks in that, on those topics?
924
:Or do you stick to reading
physical or electronic?
925
:Alexandra: do, it's one of those
ones that I actually like having both
926
:an audio copy and A physical copy.
927
:And I think I've told Christine
before, and I don't know if I've
928
:mentioned it here on this podcast,
but I love Hay House Publishing.
929
:And I somehow, I think I let my Empower
You audio app with them subscription end.
930
:And I want to re up that one
because they pretty much have all
931
:of the Their authors books up as
audio with the authors reading it.
932
:So I love because sometimes with self
help genre and metaphysics There's like
933
:images and pictures and diagrams in
the books that you don't necessarily
934
:get through the audio or like you
have to go through a bunch of hoops
935
:to find them So I think that's why I
love listening to it and reading it.
936
:But that's, yeah, that's
my favorite thing.
937
:So that's one, one, one more thing to
add to the to do list to subscribe to.
938
:But I do, I think there's things
that stand out to me more when
939
:I listen and then other pieces
stand out to me when I read.
940
:So it's, I enjoy both of them.
941
:And it's also another way to kind
of more of like not cement, but
942
:like get the information in further.
943
:So I like that.
944
:Christine: And I have one
more that I meant to mention.
945
:It's not, it's a non fiction book that
I actually saw on Instagram through the,
946
:like the New York Times had posted about
it, but it really grabbed my interest.
947
:The book is called All in Her
Head, The Truth and Lies Early
948
:Medicine Taught Us About Women's
Bodies and Why it Matters Today by
949
:Dr.
950
:Elizabeth Komen.
951
:I did, I have that as an audiobook.
952
:I did start it, but I'm, I saw that
and, I had just talked to somebody about
953
:like a similar topic and like, it just
struck a chord with me and I was like,
954
:Oh my God, yes, I need to read this.
955
:So it it just grabbed my attention
what I was reading the article.
956
:And so I'll have to let you
guys know how I like that.
957
:But I know I've been mostly
talking about non fiction,
958
:er, fiction books that I love.
959
:But I do enjoy non fiction
every now and again.
960
:I didn't
961
:even, I had mentioned that I love
documentaries, I also love a memoir.
962
:Like, I listened to Prince
Harry's that one took me a while.
963
:But that, that was a heavy story to read.
964
:And then I did read Britney Spears
memoir at the start of the year.
965
:So, yeah.
966
:But, why don't we talk about any
books to grammars or booktubers
967
:that you love that you want to share
968
:Alexandra: Yeah.
969
:And I think I totally
stumbled across these people.
970
:By accident, I think it was when
I got into watching the videos
971
:about the book rebindings.
972
:But Chelsea Cohen her handle's at chelsea
reads underscore, which of course, as
973
:per usual, will include these the links
to their accounts in the show notes.
974
:So her, I love them because
it's, it's kind of funny.
975
:And she'll do this whole skit with
herself where she's got this version
976
:that always wears like a cream and white.
977
:checked sweater or something.
978
:And it's, she's like, all right, next, who
wants a book, you know, recommendation?
979
:And like, she'll play different
versions, like, Hey, I want this.
980
:I want a spicy romance
with this and this thing.
981
:And I'm used to lovers.
982
:She's like, okay, well, I've got this,
this, and this, and this, which one?
983
:There's like, well, can I get more of XYZ?
984
:And like, so that's kind of fun.
985
:So sometimes I'll like screenshot
books that I'm like, sound interesting.
986
:Plastic edit.
987
:I think she does a lot of fantasy more
things, but I like it because it exposes
988
:me to different I guess tropes for lack
of a better word and different things.
989
:And then somebody else I kind of stumbled
across on this, Jason Hedley at EasyCat.
990
:I think that's how you say that, Handel?
991
:He's really funny.
992
:I just, I'm thinking, this is definitely
not for children's ears, but apparently
993
:there is a book that is called Door
or something, and it's about a woman
994
:getting it on with a door, and when
he was doing the review of that,
995
:I was, I was on the floor dying.
996
:It was great.
997
:But yeah.
998
:But he's just so funny.
999
:And he does things with like you know,
like I'm a book person and I wouldn't,
:
00:48:17,665 --> 00:48:20,555
you know, I can't go anywhere without
my bookshelf or something like that.
:
00:48:20,935 --> 00:48:22,365
And so I kind of connect with that.
:
00:48:22,395 --> 00:48:23,105
And it was funny.
:
00:48:23,195 --> 00:48:24,635
But yeah, so.
:
00:48:25,075 --> 00:48:28,635
I like some of the, the lighter
book things and kind of exposing
:
00:48:28,635 --> 00:48:32,024
me to different authors or
titles that I haven't found
:
00:48:32,054 --> 00:48:32,604
myself.
:
00:48:33,464 --> 00:48:35,964
But those are the ones that are
more on, like, the fantasy side.
:
00:48:35,964 --> 00:48:40,394
I don't think I've found a new one for,
like nonfiction or Other stuff because
:
00:48:40,394 --> 00:48:41,684
most of that I just find on my own.
:
00:48:42,344 --> 00:48:42,584
Yeah.
:
00:48:42,584 --> 00:48:43,334
What about you, Christine?
:
00:48:43,334 --> 00:48:45,164
Do you have anyone that you
have followed for a long time?
:
00:48:45,324 --> 00:48:46,744
Oh, I
:
00:48:46,774 --> 00:48:47,474
jump in one more time?
:
00:48:48,404 --> 00:48:48,744
Okay,
:
00:48:48,889 --> 00:48:49,639
Christine: Yeah, no worries.
:
00:48:49,639 --> 00:48:51,119
Mm.
:
00:48:51,119 --> 00:48:52,599
Mm.
:
00:48:53,234 --> 00:48:58,034
Alexandra: talk or bookstagram or
booktube All that but one of my co
:
00:48:58,034 --> 00:49:03,334
workers and good friends she has her TBR
is full of a lot of classics and other
:
00:49:03,334 --> 00:49:08,569
stories and I Love catching up with
her because we'll go for a walk at work
:
00:49:08,919 --> 00:49:12,459
just to kind of get up from our desks
and I'll be like, so what's the latest?
:
00:49:12,459 --> 00:49:13,499
Tell me what's going on.
:
00:49:13,969 --> 00:49:18,459
And recently she was telling me
about the picture of Dorian Gray by
:
00:49:18,479 --> 00:49:23,079
Oscar Wilde and she's done Sense and
Sensibility by, you know, Jane Austen,
:
00:49:23,079 --> 00:49:24,709
like all these different classics.
:
00:49:24,779 --> 00:49:29,359
And the way she recaps the stories,
I'm like, I totally got it.
:
00:49:29,359 --> 00:49:30,149
I don't need to read it.
:
00:49:31,114 --> 00:49:35,284
But it's funny, it's witty, it's
very much like, not in, almost like
:
00:49:35,284 --> 00:49:39,644
something like that Victorian, old,
historical, Romance time language.
:
00:49:40,084 --> 00:49:42,854
And I'm like, you need to get
an Instagram, you need to do
:
00:49:43,474 --> 00:49:46,344
something on YouTube, because you
have to share this with the world.
:
00:49:47,414 --> 00:49:51,484
And she's been rereading the Bible,
I'm like, can you tell me about
:
00:49:51,484 --> 00:49:54,614
what's going on in like Deuteronomy
or, you know, different books?
:
00:49:54,954 --> 00:49:59,804
And she's like, okay, so this is
how it went down and it's great.
:
00:50:00,764 --> 00:50:04,224
So while she doesn't have an account,
it's one of my favorite ways to learn
:
00:50:04,234 --> 00:50:04,564
about
:
00:50:04,654 --> 00:50:05,784
Christine: awesome.
:
00:50:06,184 --> 00:50:07,194
Oh, very cool.
:
00:50:07,392 --> 00:50:11,493
I first got on like the booktube
retreat back in college, I
:
00:50:11,493 --> 00:50:15,193
think, and was following a lot
of different people at the time.
:
00:50:15,243 --> 00:50:20,733
And they've since I still follow
them, but they've sort of grown out
:
00:50:20,733 --> 00:50:25,113
of, like, they still do a little
bit in that realm, but that's not
:
00:50:25,123 --> 00:50:26,803
strictly the content they do anymore.
:
00:50:26,803 --> 00:50:32,443
So the one that I really love and still
follow, her name is Natasha Polis.
:
00:50:32,473 --> 00:50:35,797
I think she goes, forget what her handle
is, let me look it up really quick.
:
00:50:36,437 --> 00:50:38,537
She's Tasha Polis on Instagram.
:
00:50:38,937 --> 00:50:43,487
And then, the one that I still
follow who strictly sticks to
:
00:50:43,497 --> 00:50:46,407
book content is Peru's Project.
:
00:50:46,477 --> 00:50:47,557
Her name is Regan.
:
00:50:48,507 --> 00:50:52,277
I have followed her for years.
:
00:50:52,337 --> 00:50:55,647
I don't necessarily watch her long
form content anymore, but I always
:
00:50:55,647 --> 00:50:58,727
like to see, like, Like, I follow
her on Goodreads, so I'd like to
:
00:50:58,727 --> 00:51:00,717
see what, how she reviews things.
:
00:51:01,047 --> 00:51:06,947
Although, recently, I've read
Ninth House by Leigh Bardugo.
:
00:51:07,297 --> 00:51:10,637
And, we didn't even touch on
this in this episode, maybe
:
00:51:10,637 --> 00:51:11,717
we'll have to come back to it.
:
00:51:11,717 --> 00:51:15,827
But, talking about books that
we didn't end up liking, that
:
00:51:15,847 --> 00:51:18,287
were, like, really popular.
:
00:51:18,297 --> 00:51:20,097
Or, whatever the case may be.
:
00:51:20,286 --> 00:51:20,586
That
:
00:51:20,766 --> 00:51:21,096
Alexandra: Yes.
:
00:51:21,396 --> 00:51:23,406
Christine was here when she finished that
:
00:51:23,596 --> 00:51:25,476
Christine: Oh my god, it took so long.
:
00:51:26,706 --> 00:51:28,419
I Wasn't for me.
:
00:51:28,469 --> 00:51:29,539
Not my cup of tea.
:
00:51:29,539 --> 00:51:33,769
I had so much hope because like the
premise was really interesting and
:
00:51:34,069 --> 00:51:39,179
I was excited because she's the
author of Shadow and Bone and Six
:
00:51:39,179 --> 00:51:39,919
of Crows.
:
00:51:39,959 --> 00:51:43,529
Like, so she, you know, she was
very successful in the YA genre.
:
00:51:43,529 --> 00:51:51,359
This was her first adult fantasy novel
and in my opinion, But it, it got better.
:
00:51:51,439 --> 00:51:54,159
I just, it took, we'll have to get
:
00:51:54,384 --> 00:51:57,184
Alexandra: think when you finished
the book, I was like, how'd it go?
:
00:51:57,184 --> 00:52:00,044
And she's like, well, there was a twist
at the end that I kind of want to read
:
00:52:00,044 --> 00:52:02,634
the second one, but like, I don't know
that I really want to suffer through
:
00:52:02,649 --> 00:52:06,252
Christine: Yeah, I don't know, I don't
know if I'll like, But I, if it, if it
:
00:52:06,252 --> 00:52:12,152
pops up at like a thrift store or a book
sale, like discounted, or who knows, maybe
:
00:52:12,152 --> 00:52:16,872
there isn't an audio book I want to read
more than the second book in the series.
:
00:52:17,172 --> 00:52:22,762
But yeah, she, I bring this up because she
had rated the book like four or five stars
:
00:52:22,782 --> 00:52:24,662
and I was like, this is a two for me.
:
00:52:24,682 --> 00:52:28,242
So it was the first time I was
like, girl, what's going on?
:
00:52:28,752 --> 00:52:31,062
Alexandra: Yeah, I think
that's also valid, right?
:
00:52:31,072 --> 00:52:34,702
Like all of our opinions are based on
our own experiences and where we are.
:
00:52:34,702 --> 00:52:37,702
I think when we read them, I have
a really good friend who's been on
:
00:52:37,702 --> 00:52:40,342
the show before Traveris and she
was like, you have to read this
:
00:52:40,342 --> 00:52:42,202
book the women who run with wolves.
:
00:52:42,242 --> 00:52:48,002
And I started to read that when I
was back with the other podcasts and
:
00:52:48,002 --> 00:52:51,882
they wanted to do like a book club
type of like a thing around books.
:
00:52:51,902 --> 00:52:53,432
And that was the book they picked.
:
00:52:53,452 --> 00:52:57,935
And I think the people I was around
and some, Opinions and feelings that
:
00:52:57,935 --> 00:53:02,315
I had when I started to read that
book colored what I was seeing it.
:
00:53:02,410 --> 00:53:02,800
Christine: Mm.
:
00:53:03,455 --> 00:53:05,585
Alexandra: And so I was like,
maybe I would give that like
:
00:53:05,585 --> 00:53:06,575
a one star from what I read.
:
00:53:07,495 --> 00:53:11,355
However, maybe that's just where I was
at the time and I should go back and read
:
00:53:11,355 --> 00:53:11,575
it.
:
00:53:11,915 --> 00:53:15,065
Cause I think I've heard many people
talk highly about it, but I'm wondering
:
00:53:15,065 --> 00:53:17,415
if it's one of those things that
for me, it's like people talk highly
:
00:53:17,415 --> 00:53:19,445
about it, but do they understand it?
:
00:53:19,455 --> 00:53:21,735
Or maybe they understand it and
I don't understand it in a way.
:
00:53:22,245 --> 00:53:23,504
So anyways, it's one of those like.
:
00:53:24,195 --> 00:53:24,835
Is anyone right?
:
00:53:24,975 --> 00:53:25,470
Christine: Yeah.
:
00:53:25,500 --> 00:53:25,840
Well,
:
00:53:25,910 --> 00:53:29,395
it's like, it's like not Not everything's
gonna resonate with everybody.
:
00:53:29,405 --> 00:53:34,785
So like, you know, there's, and then for
me, the same, this same book, Instagram
:
00:53:34,786 --> 00:53:39,085
person, booktuber that I follow,
she did not like Fourth Wing at all.
:
00:53:39,335 --> 00:53:42,975
And she's really big and she reads
a lot of fantasy and, and all
:
00:53:42,975 --> 00:53:44,205
of that, but she wasn't a fan.
:
00:53:44,205 --> 00:53:49,665
So like, coming off of me loving Fourth
Wing and her not liking it to, to me
:
00:53:49,665 --> 00:53:51,575
reading Ninth House and I not liking
:
00:53:51,575 --> 00:53:53,935
it, I was like, What's going on?
:
00:53:54,295 --> 00:53:55,965
But yeah, it just goes to show you like,
:
00:53:56,282 --> 00:53:58,902
Alexandra: Do you ever get defensive
about books that you love and then
:
00:53:58,912 --> 00:54:00,022
other people like, no, I hate it.
:
00:54:00,902 --> 00:54:04,382
Christine: I used to, I, I
haven't necessarily Like, I
:
00:54:04,382 --> 00:54:06,082
was that way with Twilight.
:
00:54:06,982 --> 00:54:12,362
But I feel like Twilight was its own
thing, and I think some people may look
:
00:54:12,362 --> 00:54:15,812
back on Twilight and their time and their
obsession of it and cringe a little bit.
:
00:54:15,842 --> 00:54:17,162
I'm like, I laugh at it.
:
00:54:17,172 --> 00:54:20,382
I was like, girl, it was I was so
:
00:54:20,972 --> 00:54:21,152
It
:
00:54:21,152 --> 00:54:21,782
was
:
00:54:22,692 --> 00:54:27,422
And like, It was the first time
where I properly like, quote
:
00:54:27,422 --> 00:54:29,272
unquote, fangirled about something.
:
00:54:29,272 --> 00:54:34,022
, I was so emotionally invested
in just like, into a series.
:
00:54:34,372 --> 00:54:36,662
I've since grown to , have boundaries.
:
00:54:37,182 --> 00:54:41,652
When it comes to like, I'll still
like, love to, I still love to
:
00:54:41,652 --> 00:54:44,762
dive in and immerse myself, but
, understand like, I don't need to
:
00:54:44,762 --> 00:54:46,839
necessarily have this emotional,
:
00:54:46,839 --> 00:54:47,339
Alexandra: That's true.
:
00:54:47,501 --> 00:54:47,791
Christine: Deep
:
00:54:47,821 --> 00:54:51,181
Alexandra: think I had a similar
reaction right after I read Fourth
:
00:54:51,181 --> 00:54:53,741
Wing, or I say read, I listened to it.
:
00:54:54,301 --> 00:54:58,571
And I think I feel sometimes
more attachment to books that
:
00:54:58,571 --> 00:55:00,991
I've listened to from readers.
:
00:55:01,001 --> 00:55:03,101
I really enjoyed how
they performed the story.
:
00:55:03,571 --> 00:55:07,361
So to me, it's not just the story, but
it was the way in which it was performed.
:
00:55:07,940 --> 00:55:12,139
I wasn't a huge fan of the male voice
that they had do at the last chapter.
:
00:55:12,470 --> 00:55:14,410
I think I've heard him in a
couple other books and he's okay.
:
00:55:14,490 --> 00:55:18,140
I just, I think I got so used to
the way the, the female performer
:
00:55:18,150 --> 00:55:21,860
had done the voices and characters
that I really enjoyed that.
:
00:55:22,290 --> 00:55:25,480
So anyways, I saw this one guy
reviewing like terrible books
:
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:26,530
and I hadn't read any of those.
:
00:55:26,580 --> 00:55:28,920
And then he put like
five as like fourth way.
:
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:31,180
And I was like, kind
of like, Hey, and I was
:
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:35,980
like, okay, it might be that
I just finished reading it.
:
00:55:36,050 --> 00:55:37,560
Probably not a good idea.
:
00:55:37,580 --> 00:55:42,100
And, but like, now that I have space,
I'm like, I think it's a good book.
:
00:55:42,700 --> 00:55:43,320
I enjoyed it.
:
00:55:43,340 --> 00:55:47,910
And I, and I'm trying to come to the
terms with, you know, where people
:
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:51,190
think books have to be this amazing.
:
00:55:52,170 --> 00:55:52,750
Christine: Work of art.
:
00:55:52,750 --> 00:55:53,920
Mm
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00:55:54,110 --> 00:55:54,790
Alexandra: Yeah.
:
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:59,040
And I'm like, sometimes, no, sometimes
a book just needs to be a good read.
:
00:55:59,050 --> 00:56:01,940
And if you enjoy it,
fuck all who don't agree.
:
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:05,410
Like, and that's what I'm trying to get to
because I'm like, I used to feel ashamed
:
00:56:05,420 --> 00:56:07,870
that I really liked smutty romance.
:
00:56:07,890 --> 00:56:10,930
And, or that's sometimes, I don't know
if you've heard it called clitorature.
:
00:56:11,270 --> 00:56:11,990
Christine: Oh!
:
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:13,660
I have not heard it called
that, but that makes
:
00:56:13,890 --> 00:56:16,530
Alexandra: That was fun and I was
like, I used to be like ashamed
:
00:56:16,530 --> 00:56:18,120
that I liked that and I'm like, why?
:
00:56:18,170 --> 00:56:22,410
I'm When I read that it's because I
want to not escape from life But I want
:
00:56:22,410 --> 00:56:26,140
to enjoy something different than my
day to day life And so I'm like that's
:
00:56:26,570 --> 00:56:29,860
really all it needs to be and if that's
what it is Then it's good for me.
:
00:56:29,860 --> 00:56:32,410
And if somebody else doesn't like
it, then they don't like it, but
:
00:56:32,410 --> 00:56:35,670
they might like something I don't
like so yeah, I used to say that's
:
00:56:35,690 --> 00:56:38,150
getting boundaries and I'm like, Yes.
:
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:39,000
Yes.
:
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:39,760
That's what I need to do
:
00:56:40,145 --> 00:56:40,515
Christine: Yes.
:
00:56:41,925 --> 00:56:44,095
Alexandra: But yeah, so
that's, that's our stuff.
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00:56:44,125 --> 00:56:47,425
And we'll of course put the people
that we had mentioned their handles
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00:56:47,475 --> 00:56:49,915
in our show notes, if anyone wants
to go check out their content.
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00:56:50,545 --> 00:56:51,045
All right.
:
00:56:51,265 --> 00:56:54,575
So I know we kept saying we would put
a pin in it and come back to you later.
:
00:56:54,605 --> 00:56:58,875
Well, guys, it is finally time
to hit the books to film section.
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00:56:59,295 --> 00:57:03,525
So Christine, to kick us off, what
do you think, what are your thoughts
:
00:57:03,525 --> 00:57:05,595
on books becoming TV shows or films?
:
00:57:06,385 --> 00:57:12,255
Christine: You know, my thoughts on
this has changed a lot since I was in,
:
00:57:12,255 --> 00:57:14,005
like, middle school, high school to now.
:
00:57:14,005 --> 00:57:17,985
I don't, you know what, you know,
I'm kind of like, sure, let's
:
00:57:17,985 --> 00:57:19,705
see how it all comes to life.
:
00:57:19,725 --> 00:57:26,420
Because, look, no one, I think at the
one point I want to I'll start by saying
:
00:57:26,420 --> 00:57:33,700
is, I don't think it's ever going to
be perfect because everybody interprets
:
00:57:33,820 --> 00:57:37,910
the story they're reading differently,
they envision it differently so
:
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:41,740
you can't, not everybody's
going to be happy.
:
00:57:41,740 --> 00:57:46,895
But I always love to see how a
director, a writer, interprets a story.
:
00:57:47,435 --> 00:57:53,995
another piece of work and put it and
bring it to the screen or to my TV
:
00:57:54,005 --> 00:57:59,479
because They're interpreting The story
just like I did when I read it So I
:
00:57:59,859 --> 00:58:04,509
and they have the means to turn it into a
movie or a TV show Which is I think pretty
:
00:58:04,509 --> 00:58:09,129
awesome and for a long time I was like I
have to read the book before I watch it.
:
00:58:09,589 --> 00:58:14,949
I think I've sort of You Let go of that
requirement, and I'll watch something and
:
00:58:14,949 --> 00:58:22,039
sometimes I'll just watch a book or a book
Adaptation of a film or a TV show and not
:
00:58:22,039 --> 00:58:25,091
even read it because like Maybe I enjoyed
:
00:58:26,011 --> 00:58:30,291
well, you know it Yeah, it didn't
capture me enough to be like oh, I
:
00:58:30,291 --> 00:58:34,661
should go back and see how this was
originally written or whatever but
:
00:58:34,772 --> 00:58:37,092
Alexandra: it's funny as you were
talking, I was already like picking
:
00:58:37,092 --> 00:58:40,422
like, Oh, the years are like one,
two, three, four, four or five things.
:
00:58:40,422 --> 00:58:41,072
I was like, I got it.
:
00:58:41,132 --> 00:58:42,292
I want to talk about this section.
:
00:58:42,322 --> 00:58:44,302
So Chrissy, I'm curious to know more
:
00:58:44,317 --> 00:58:46,467
Christine: Yeah, sure.
:
00:58:46,477 --> 00:58:48,117
So I'm, I'm all for it.
:
00:58:48,397 --> 00:58:51,787
I know some people would
be like, no, it'll ruin it.
:
00:58:52,037 --> 00:58:55,437
And yeah, they've, some have
really missed the mark, but I
:
00:58:55,467 --> 00:58:57,407
always, I'm like, give it a shot.
:
00:58:57,467 --> 00:58:59,037
Let's see what they come up with.
:
00:58:59,037 --> 00:58:59,617
But what about you?
:
00:58:59,777 --> 00:59:01,307
Alexandra: I'm very much
in the same opinion.
:
00:59:01,347 --> 00:59:05,387
I don't think I've ever had the
experience of like, Oh, I have to
:
00:59:05,387 --> 00:59:06,907
read the book before I see the show.
:
00:59:08,092 --> 00:59:10,912
Cause sometimes a show or a movie
will actually turn me off the
:
00:59:11,052 --> 00:59:11,412
Christine: Mm hmm.
:
00:59:12,182 --> 00:59:13,532
That's definitely how I am today.
:
00:59:13,762 --> 00:59:14,202
For sure.
:
00:59:14,872 --> 00:59:18,002
Alexandra: And kind of going into the next
part of like ones that haven't been done
:
00:59:18,002 --> 00:59:19,782
well, or ones we thought were done poorly.
:
00:59:20,492 --> 00:59:25,182
There was one that I read the
book before, saw the movie, and
:
00:59:25,182 --> 00:59:26,302
then it later became a TV show.
:
00:59:26,302 --> 00:59:28,782
I think I turned Christine onto
it, but the one that was City of
:
00:59:28,782 --> 00:59:30,512
Bones, and then the TV show
:
00:59:30,512 --> 00:59:31,292
Shadowhunter.
:
00:59:32,302 --> 00:59:33,382
I thought the book was okay.
:
00:59:33,752 --> 00:59:36,842
And it was another one of those things
that was a really big, I think, hype when
:
00:59:36,842 --> 00:59:39,922
it was coming out by Cassandra Clare.
:
00:59:40,762 --> 00:59:44,442
And I will give the
book, the movie, props.
:
00:59:44,502 --> 00:59:46,382
I thought it followed the book very
:
00:59:46,382 --> 00:59:46,712
well.
:
00:59:47,472 --> 00:59:52,992
I enjoyed the TV show much better
after I think once the actors kind
:
00:59:52,992 --> 00:59:54,462
of settled into like their roles.
:
00:59:54,812 --> 00:59:54,992
It's
:
00:59:54,992 --> 00:59:57,822
one of those things I was like,
Christine's like, yeah, she was
:
00:59:57,822 --> 00:59:59,282
like, are you sure this is good?
:
00:59:59,312 --> 01:00:02,582
I was like, just get past the first
four to five episodes and think,
:
01:00:02,582 --> 01:00:04,112
and she's like, Oh, I see it now.
:
01:00:04,562 --> 01:00:10,632
I thought the way the TV show captured
the world was much more engaging,
:
01:00:11,122 --> 01:00:14,002
but when the show was canceled and
I thought they rushed the ending.
:
01:00:14,112 --> 01:00:15,262
So I was a little disappointed in
:
01:00:15,262 --> 01:00:15,522
that.
:
01:00:16,382 --> 01:00:18,492
But overall, I think I preferred the show.
:
01:00:19,142 --> 01:00:21,182
Over the movie and over the books.
:
01:00:21,862 --> 01:00:23,812
One of my big things
was, ah, Harry Potter.
:
01:00:23,862 --> 01:00:25,772
That's what I said from
earlier in the episode.
:
01:00:26,392 --> 01:00:27,342
I liked the movies.
:
01:00:27,362 --> 01:00:28,832
I thought they were, they were good.
:
01:00:28,852 --> 01:00:31,962
You can definitely see,
see the development of CGI
:
01:00:31,962 --> 01:00:33,452
capabilities through the series.
:
01:00:34,062 --> 01:00:37,322
I was so disappointed in the
fourth book, the fourth movie.
:
01:00:37,362 --> 01:00:40,802
Because the fourth book has so much detail
:
01:00:41,267 --> 01:00:41,617
Christine: book.
:
01:00:41,672 --> 01:00:42,752
Alexandra: left out.
:
01:00:43,432 --> 01:00:45,792
And I was, that was the
part that disappointed me.
:
01:00:45,792 --> 01:00:49,042
I was like, the book is so great
and the movie could be so much
:
01:00:49,042 --> 01:00:52,252
better, but I was like, it also
would probably be a four hour movie.
:
01:00:52,507 --> 01:00:53,047
Christine: right?
:
01:00:53,302 --> 01:00:56,602
Alexandra: But so I think, I don't
know if it's true, but I heard a rumor
:
01:00:56,602 --> 01:01:01,482
that Warner Brothers is going to make
a TV series of Harry Potter where each
:
01:01:01,482 --> 01:01:04,572
season is going to follow the books
a little bit more closely in detail.
:
01:01:04,572 --> 01:01:06,362
And I'm like, I am here for it.
:
01:01:06,547 --> 01:01:08,047
Christine: Oh, are you,
you're here for it.
:
01:01:08,772 --> 01:01:09,592
Alexandra: Yeah, I mean.
:
01:01:09,937 --> 01:01:11,387
I, I like the show.
:
01:01:11,427 --> 01:01:13,077
I love the movies.
:
01:01:13,097 --> 01:01:17,007
I think, you know the actors like
Daniel Radcliffe Emma Watson will
:
01:01:17,007 --> 01:01:22,217
always be those characters for me, but
I'm not so staunchly opposed to like,
:
01:01:22,317 --> 01:01:25,577
Oh, they can never redo it because
I mean, they've redone other movies
:
01:01:25,577 --> 01:01:27,887
and shows as generations have passed.
:
01:01:27,887 --> 01:01:31,907
I mean, heck, even Sabrina, the teenage
witch has been redone and that was only.
:
01:01:32,237 --> 01:01:33,447
First came out in the early::
01:01:34,127 --> 01:01:34,817
Christine: Nineties.
:
01:01:34,947 --> 01:01:39,267
Alexandra::Netflix redid it in a bit of a
:
01:01:39,267 --> 01:01:40,837
different style, which is totally
:
01:01:40,837 --> 01:01:41,247
cool.
:
01:01:41,287 --> 01:01:41,857
Christine: The chilling.
:
01:01:41,887 --> 01:01:42,187
Yeah.
:
01:01:42,187 --> 01:01:43,117
The Mm-Hmm.
:
01:01:43,368 --> 01:01:44,288
Alexandra: I'm okay with it.
:
01:01:44,388 --> 01:01:46,888
I'm curious to know, I think, like
you said, Christine, a little bit
:
01:01:46,888 --> 01:01:52,088
ago, how seeing how it's adapted and
seeing what this, the director or
:
01:01:52,828 --> 01:01:55,198
writers and producers create for that.
:
01:01:55,198 --> 01:01:57,588
So I think it'll be an
interesting experiment.
:
01:01:57,648 --> 01:01:58,158
Christine: Yeah,
:
01:01:58,988 --> 01:01:59,348
I,
:
01:01:59,438 --> 01:02:01,808
Alexandra: So what is one that
you thought has been done well?
:
01:02:02,418 --> 01:02:06,698
Christine: Know what I think has done well
and has exceeded the quality of the books?
:
01:02:07,198 --> 01:02:08,118
Is Bridgerton.
:
01:02:08,698 --> 01:02:13,238
Because I, I, I didn't read
the books before I watched it.
:
01:02:13,558 --> 01:02:16,708
And it was one of those things where
I was like, there's too much hype
:
01:02:16,708 --> 01:02:18,268
around this, I'm not going to watch it.
:
01:02:18,298 --> 01:02:20,478
And then I was like, what
the fuck was I thinking?
:
01:02:21,498 --> 01:02:22,078
This is so
:
01:02:22,113 --> 01:02:25,493
Alexandra: I think, she was
like, okay, I know there's hype,
:
01:02:25,503 --> 01:02:27,003
but you have to check this out.
:
01:02:27,243 --> 01:02:28,843
And so I was like, okay, fine.
:
01:02:30,552 --> 01:02:31,269
But I agree with you.
:
01:02:31,269 --> 01:02:32,269
I think the show is
:
01:02:32,413 --> 01:02:33,114
Christine: Yeah, the
:
01:02:33,114 --> 01:02:33,754
show is way
:
01:02:33,779 --> 01:02:33,969
Alexandra: but
:
01:02:34,322 --> 01:02:34,752
Christine: than the books.
:
01:02:35,827 --> 01:02:41,317
I think honestly, like, they've taken the
story, like, the, the, the bones of what
:
01:02:41,427 --> 01:02:48,647
Julia Quinn created, and just, the writing
is amazing I love how they've reimagined
:
01:02:48,647 --> 01:02:55,927
this historical time period, and have
brought in such wonderful Elements to make
:
01:02:55,937 --> 01:02:58,427
the story even better and more beautiful.
:
01:02:58,427 --> 01:03:03,067
And, I think that, for me,
is like where the bar is.
:
01:03:03,107 --> 01:03:03,702
And, yeah.
:
01:03:04,422 --> 01:03:06,542
I'm very excited for this next season.
:
01:03:06,602 --> 01:03:08,832
I loved also Queen Charlotte.
:
01:03:08,932 --> 01:03:09,622
Alexandra: I still
:
01:03:09,622 --> 01:03:10,502
haven't seen that one.
:
01:03:10,512 --> 01:03:11,852
That's, that's on my to watch
:
01:03:12,057 --> 01:03:12,457
Christine: I know.
:
01:03:12,547 --> 01:03:15,137
Oh, I don't know if it's a book.
:
01:03:15,287 --> 01:03:15,767
I don't know.
:
01:03:15,787 --> 01:03:16,677
I think that might have just
:
01:03:16,677 --> 01:03:17,187
been a one
:
01:03:17,402 --> 01:03:17,642
Alexandra: so,
:
01:03:18,147 --> 01:03:18,367
Christine: did.
:
01:03:18,367 --> 01:03:20,337
Alexandra: but I've heard
really good things about it.
:
01:03:20,347 --> 01:03:21,607
Like you have said it.
:
01:03:21,657 --> 01:03:23,407
I think my mom's watched it.
:
01:03:23,407 --> 01:03:25,977
Other people say they've watched
them like, Oh my gosh, you have to.
:
01:03:25,977 --> 01:03:30,597
I feel like it's one of those things that
I want to be able to dedicate time to
:
01:03:30,597 --> 01:03:34,007
and binge if I hit the urge to binge it.
:
01:03:34,017 --> 01:03:37,287
So I haven't really had
time to really binge a show.
:
01:03:37,327 --> 01:03:39,307
So I'm like, I keep
putting it off until I feel
:
01:03:39,392 --> 01:03:40,252
Christine: That makes sense.
:
01:03:40,422 --> 01:03:43,752
Oh, another one that I brought
up last week, Heartstopper.
:
01:03:45,042 --> 01:03:51,432
I, I know it's a, it's like a graphic
novel, but it's so good and the show
:
01:03:52,413 --> 01:03:52,734
Alexandra: Yeah,
:
01:03:52,904 --> 01:03:53,204
Christine: it's,
:
01:03:53,294 --> 01:03:53,994
Alexandra: almost like the show
:
01:03:54,274 --> 01:03:57,314
Christine: well only because like
you can only do so much with graphic,
:
01:03:57,744 --> 01:04:00,634
it's like a comic almost
because there isn't a whole
:
01:04:00,634 --> 01:04:04,394
lot of other dialogue or like,
:
01:04:05,484 --> 01:04:07,994
Alexandra: Yeah, but I thought
they did a really good job of
:
01:04:07,994 --> 01:04:12,294
kind of transposing some of the
images from the graphic novel into
:
01:04:12,389 --> 01:04:16,288
Christine: Well, Alice Coleman is heavily
involved in the show's production.
:
01:04:16,288 --> 01:04:16,679
So, like,
:
01:04:16,689 --> 01:04:19,569
all the little, like,
transitions, like, the little
:
01:04:19,649 --> 01:04:20,979
the, the animated bits.
:
01:04:21,399 --> 01:04:26,129
are her art that she did, like that
are from the, from the books and
:
01:04:26,149 --> 01:04:28,969
are like she, she does for the show.
:
01:04:29,179 --> 01:04:33,199
And she's also, I don't know if she's
featured in the second season, but
:
01:04:33,199 --> 01:04:37,319
like, you know, that last episode
they're on the train to go to the beach
:
01:04:38,219 --> 01:04:41,288
and there's this girl sitting off
to the side and she's drawing,
:
01:04:41,288 --> 01:04:42,549
I don't know, but that's her.
:
01:04:42,663 --> 01:04:43,063
Alexandra: Oh my gosh.
:
01:04:43,063 --> 01:04:44,123
I have to go back and watch that.
:
01:04:44,248 --> 01:04:45,668
Christine: that's, that's Alice Coleman.
:
01:04:45,678 --> 01:04:46,318
She's great.
:
01:04:46,418 --> 01:04:50,958
Alexandra: While we're on Heartstopper
and Bridgerton that you mentioned, I
:
01:04:50,958 --> 01:04:55,108
would say that one of the things I liked
better about the shows than the books
:
01:04:55,148 --> 01:04:59,778
is the expansion of the characters and
the surrounding supporting characters
:
01:05:00,078 --> 01:05:03,928
that happen in the TV show that you
don't necessarily get in the books.
:
01:05:04,398 --> 01:05:08,068
So that's, that's why I
almost love the shows better.
:
01:05:08,172 --> 01:05:08,682
Christine: I agree.
:
01:05:08,822 --> 01:05:09,382
Definitely.
:
01:05:09,382 --> 01:05:14,532
Especially with well, both of those,
because one, one's a graphic novel,
:
01:05:14,542 --> 01:05:17,442
so It's very much hyper focused on the
:
01:05:17,802 --> 01:05:21,172
Charlie and Nick, and then also
with the, the romance novels.
:
01:05:21,182 --> 01:05:24,602
Like, it's very hyper focused
on the couple that the story is
:
01:05:24,612 --> 01:05:29,102
following, so you, you get to see
how much bigger the world is, and
:
01:05:29,102 --> 01:05:31,772
how they'll connect season to season,
:
01:05:32,042 --> 01:05:36,632
and how other characters, like,
their subplots, they bloom and grow.
:
01:05:36,632 --> 01:05:39,632
Like, it's just, I agree with
you that those two shows have
:
01:05:40,212 --> 01:05:41,802
definitely exceeded the books.
:
01:05:41,852 --> 01:05:42,172
Alexandra: Okay.
:
01:05:42,386 --> 01:05:42,946
I have one.
:
01:05:43,003 --> 01:05:48,297
So one that I was so excited for,
because I absolutely love the books.
:
01:05:48,359 --> 01:05:50,699
And I think it's one of those
things like with the fourth book
:
01:05:50,699 --> 01:05:52,115
of Harry Potter, discovery of
:
01:05:52,115 --> 01:05:52,455
witches.
:
01:05:53,115 --> 01:05:56,505
I freaking love those books.
:
01:05:56,915 --> 01:05:58,045
I listened to the audio books.
:
01:05:58,065 --> 01:06:00,015
I think I do have the digital copies.
:
01:06:00,475 --> 01:06:02,835
I liked the reader of
books one through three.
:
01:06:02,967 --> 01:06:05,817
I started to listen to the
fourth, the one off one.
:
01:06:05,877 --> 01:06:08,767
And it was almost like, First
of all, different reader.
:
01:06:09,317 --> 01:06:10,017
Terrible.
:
01:06:10,047 --> 01:06:11,967
I returned that thing so quickly.
:
01:06:12,477 --> 01:06:15,867
And I, someone, one of the comments
had said they thought it was
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01:06:16,017 --> 01:06:17,677
ghostwritten for Deborah Harkness.
:
01:06:18,487 --> 01:06:20,869
And so I just haven't really
read that fourth book.
:
01:06:21,249 --> 01:06:24,429
But the TV show, I liked the first season.
:
01:06:24,959 --> 01:06:29,819
But it was one of those things, where
so much detail in the book and then they
:
01:06:29,819 --> 01:06:34,009
changed so much of the second season which
related to the second book that i was like
:
01:06:34,269 --> 01:06:34,689
Christine: Mm-Hmm.
:
01:06:35,589 --> 01:06:39,634
Alexandra: and it wasn't different enough
whereas like with the shadow hunters tv
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01:06:39,634 --> 01:06:43,284
show it was different enough from the book
and the movie that i could enjoy it on its
:
01:06:43,544 --> 01:06:43,634
own
:
01:06:44,349 --> 01:06:44,769
Christine: Mm-Hmm.
:
01:06:45,004 --> 01:06:47,784
Alexandra: that one i was just like
this could i love the actors that
:
01:06:47,784 --> 01:06:51,006
they had in there in that show and
i was like this could have been so
:
01:06:51,124 --> 01:06:51,604
Christine: Yeah.
:
01:06:51,964 --> 01:06:53,794
I, I definitely agree because.
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01:06:53,813 --> 01:06:54,514
Alexandra: yeah
:
01:06:54,844 --> 01:06:58,784
Christine: I also, but when I came
around and finished season two, I
:
01:06:58,784 --> 01:07:02,182
was so, I hadn't, listened to the
book because I listened to the books.
:
01:07:02,228 --> 01:07:03,776
I hadn't listened to the book in a while.
:
01:07:03,776 --> 01:07:07,116
So as I was watching, I was
like, this doesn't seem right.
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01:07:07,126 --> 01:07:10,816
And I was talking to Alexandra and she's
like, yeah, no, they totally changed it.
:
01:07:10,816 --> 01:07:12,296
I was like, oh, okay.
:
01:07:12,296 --> 01:07:15,706
I was going to say, and I get
it because what there was eight
:
01:07:15,806 --> 01:07:18,806
episodes in the season, right?
:
01:07:19,436 --> 01:07:19,466
Alexandra: not
:
01:07:19,466 --> 01:07:19,896
nearly
:
01:07:20,046 --> 01:07:20,696
Christine: enough.
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01:07:21,586 --> 01:07:24,756
to cover two, because two was insane.
:
01:07:24,916 --> 01:07:25,246
It was
:
01:07:25,246 --> 01:07:25,886
Massive.
:
01:07:25,916 --> 01:07:26,676
And very long.
:
01:07:26,986 --> 01:07:28,986
And then three, you know,
:
01:07:29,486 --> 01:07:29,826
they were,
:
01:07:30,546 --> 01:07:35,736
they were supposed to make two seasons
out of book three, but because of COVID
:
01:07:35,836 --> 01:07:40,866
and other commitments that the actors
had, they had to change it to one.
:
01:07:40,886 --> 01:07:42,436
And my God,
:
01:07:42,566 --> 01:07:43,826
Alexandra: Two seasons
would have been better.
:
01:07:43,936 --> 01:07:47,546
Christine: yeah, I honestly think it could
have easily, each book could have been
:
01:07:47,761 --> 01:07:49,291
I thought season one was pretty good.
:
01:07:49,291 --> 01:07:51,141
It encompassed the book pretty well.
:
01:07:51,226 --> 01:07:52,036
But each season,
:
01:07:52,216 --> 01:07:55,326
each, yeah, each book could
have been two seasons.
:
01:07:55,336 --> 01:07:59,546
I think would have been proper, proper,
or even just like longer seasons.
:
01:07:59,556 --> 01:08:03,827
I know we're in this era of
eight to ten episodes, or yeah,
:
01:08:03,846 --> 01:08:05,237
eight to ten episodes now.
:
01:08:05,568 --> 01:08:08,288
Alexandra: Sorry, I like
my 22 episode seasons.
:
01:08:08,318 --> 01:08:11,698
You know, you think about, like,
Gilmore Girls, or even Heart
:
01:08:11,698 --> 01:08:13,208
of Dixie, like, all that stuff.
:
01:08:13,208 --> 01:08:15,768
Like, 22 episodes gives
you space and time to
:
01:08:15,833 --> 01:08:16,563
Christine: Yeah.
:
01:08:16,792 --> 01:08:20,562
Well, also, I like a longer
season, and Thinking back to
:
01:08:20,562 --> 01:08:22,352
like, those shows, like Gilmore
:
01:08:22,352 --> 01:08:28,102
Girls, even I watched One Tree Hill and
Supernatural, you know, because they were
:
01:08:28,102 --> 01:08:32,362
like week to week, there were some filler
episodes that didn't necessarily pull the,
:
01:08:32,672 --> 01:08:37,376
move the plot forward, but anyway, that,
that was just how TV used to be, kids.
:
01:08:37,725 --> 01:08:43,196
Yeah,
:
01:08:43,265 --> 01:08:44,336
Alexandra: of space.
:
01:08:44,345 --> 01:08:50,185
So maybe like a 16 to 20 episode season
would have done those books a bit
:
01:08:50,185 --> 01:08:52,475
more justice without filler episodes.
:
01:08:52,956 --> 01:08:55,046
Christine: because there's
just so much especially
:
01:08:55,140 --> 01:09:02,163
Now, television with streaming services,
writers look at the series as a whole and
:
01:09:02,163 --> 01:09:06,752
have, not that they, that, that's not how
it's always been, but I feel like how TV
:
01:09:06,752 --> 01:09:11,353
used to be like the, how you got,
like they had where they wanted to
:
01:09:11,413 --> 01:09:17,316
always end up, but now with these
condensed seasons and Especially when
:
01:09:17,316 --> 01:09:21,375
it comes to book adaptations, like,
they obviously have the framework.
:
01:09:21,375 --> 01:09:23,575
Alexandra: And there's, so that's
why I think I'm partially excited
:
01:09:23,575 --> 01:09:27,975
for if the Harry Potter TV show does
ever happen that I'm excited to see
:
01:09:28,125 --> 01:09:30,104
what they do and how they do it.
:
01:09:30,115 --> 01:09:33,573
If, they're going to be longer seasons
or if they'll only be 10 episodes.
:
01:09:34,004 --> 01:09:36,684
But that said some of the shows where
it's only 10 episodes, it's like, Oh
:
01:09:36,684 --> 01:09:38,884
my gosh, did that all happen in one
:
01:09:39,094 --> 01:09:39,634
Christine: Mm hmm.
:
01:09:39,826 --> 01:09:40,185
Cause I,
:
01:09:40,246 --> 01:09:44,613
I feel like when it comes to Bridgerton
and Heartstopper, I love the length of it.
:
01:09:45,024 --> 01:09:45,804
So much happens.
:
01:09:45,804 --> 01:09:48,434
and I love that they honestly
don't need to be longer.
:
01:09:48,453 --> 01:09:49,144
I think
:
01:09:49,464 --> 01:09:52,644
I think they they've they those
two shows do a really great job.
:
01:09:52,834 --> 01:09:55,594
And Heartstopper 2, they're
less than 30 minutes.
:
01:09:57,074 --> 01:10:00,384
Alexandra: Which to me is almost mind
blowing for what happens in those
:
01:10:00,784 --> 01:10:04,604
30 minutes because so much happens
that is moving the story along.
:
01:10:05,304 --> 01:10:05,664
Christine: Yeah,
:
01:10:05,834 --> 01:10:08,924
Alexandra: So, anyways, yeah, I think we
could totally talk about this for, you
:
01:10:08,924 --> 01:10:10,234
know, ever.
:
01:10:10,777 --> 01:10:11,127
have
:
01:10:11,127 --> 01:10:12,317
You, do you have Disney Plus?
:
01:10:12,511 --> 01:10:12,991
Christine: yes.
:
01:10:13,086 --> 01:10:17,146
Alexandra: Okay, so have you
watched the Percy Olympians series?
:
01:10:17,696 --> 01:10:18,176
Christine: No,
:
01:10:18,781 --> 01:10:21,141
Alexandra: So I never read those books.
:
01:10:21,181 --> 01:10:25,341
I started listening to the second
series that the author did, something
:
01:10:25,341 --> 01:10:29,051
about Apollo on audio, but I didn't,
I haven't finished that one yet.
:
01:10:29,051 --> 01:10:30,471
So that might also be on my TBR.
:
01:10:30,871 --> 01:10:35,351
But I watched the show and I would
say it is a lot like Heartstopper
:
01:10:35,351 --> 01:10:38,611
in the sense of so much happens in
those like eight or 10 episodes.
:
01:10:38,661 --> 01:10:39,671
I'm like, hot damn.
:
01:10:39,789 --> 01:10:40,119
Whoa.
:
01:10:40,327 --> 01:10:43,347
And I thought it was done really
well, but I haven't read the books.
:
01:10:43,387 --> 01:10:43,937
So
:
01:10:44,667 --> 01:10:45,117
Christine: that's good.
:
01:10:45,697 --> 01:10:46,377
That's good to know.
:
01:10:46,407 --> 01:10:47,897
I haven't read the books either.
:
01:10:48,297 --> 01:10:53,047
I Watched the movies back or I
watched the first one and I know
:
01:10:53,047 --> 01:10:54,818
everybody was like Those who read the
:
01:10:54,818 --> 01:10:56,559
books were like, oh, this is awful.
:
01:10:56,559 --> 01:11:01,725
And even like the book or even the
movie was wasn't the greatest but
:
01:11:01,725 --> 01:11:06,883
I I've heard some good things that
the show's doing was good, so I'll
:
01:11:06,883 --> 01:11:08,833
have to, maybe I'll give it a go.
:
01:11:08,923 --> 01:11:10,883
Alexandra: And as we said,
we like anything about Greek
:
01:11:11,008 --> 01:11:12,448
Christine: yes, absolutely.
:
01:11:13,308 --> 01:11:18,215
I think just to go back to your point
about the Harry Potter TV show, I, I
:
01:11:18,215 --> 01:11:22,655
don't know, I could be, I mean, it has
been a while, but it seems a little soon.
:
01:11:22,890 --> 01:11:24,210
To like be remaking it.
:
01:11:24,250 --> 01:11:28,590
I think that to me was like really
there This is where cuz there's so many
:
01:11:28,800 --> 01:11:32,364
I know a lot of people and listen
and I've shared this with Alexandra.
:
01:11:32,724 --> 01:11:37,723
I've been struggling for the last couple
of years When it comes to Harry Potter and
:
01:11:37,873 --> 01:11:41,702
JK Rowling and all of that and we don't
need to get all into all of that right
:
01:11:41,702 --> 01:11:47,083
now, but I think for a lot of people who
are fans of Harry Potter, want to see
:
01:11:47,083 --> 01:11:50,113
something else from the world for now.
:
01:11:50,133 --> 01:11:51,723
Like, I'm all for like a
:
01:11:51,723 --> 01:11:55,813
remake and God knows we're in
the age of remakes right now, but
:
01:11:55,973 --> 01:12:00,281
I would have loved to, you
know, maybe seen a show around
:
01:12:00,291 --> 01:12:02,593
like Harry's dad and just like
:
01:12:02,673 --> 01:12:06,842
a prequel to, What we have already, but
:
01:12:06,912 --> 01:12:10,772
Alexandra: although maybe the TV show,
the remake of the original series
:
01:12:10,842 --> 01:12:13,552
would be the gateway into doing that.
:
01:12:13,992 --> 01:12:18,152
If it gets enough interest, perhaps
staying in a TV format would
:
01:12:18,422 --> 01:12:18,902
Christine: Yeah
:
01:12:18,902 --> 01:12:20,052
Alexandra: versus like a film.
:
01:12:20,252 --> 01:12:23,082
Christine: Yeah, that's true Yeah,
I just for me I was like really
:
01:12:23,092 --> 01:12:24,772
they're they're they're gonna do that
:
01:12:25,012 --> 01:12:26,842
Alexandra: but they remade Mean Girls.
:
01:12:26,842 --> 01:12:30,312
I know there was a Mean Girls 2
that was done, but I was like, we're
:
01:12:30,312 --> 01:12:32,472
not old enough for a Mean Girls
:
01:12:32,472 --> 01:12:33,912
remake, but apparently it's
:
01:12:34,372 --> 01:12:37,439
Christine: Well, it was actually the
musical version because Mean Girls
:
01:12:37,439 --> 01:12:39,619
went to Broadway, so it was Mean Girls
:
01:12:39,639 --> 01:12:40,419
the musical.
:
01:12:40,969 --> 01:12:44,189
But the interesting thing was, and
this is a little bit of a tangent, the
:
01:12:44,189 --> 01:12:48,568
interesting thing was they didn't market
the new, the Mean Girls movie as a movie
:
01:12:48,568 --> 01:12:53,959
musical because they didn't want to turn
off people like with musical attached to
:
01:12:53,959 --> 01:12:54,219
it.
:
01:12:54,909 --> 01:12:58,939
So all of the marketing just led
you to it was like just Mean Girls.
:
01:12:59,529 --> 01:13:04,634
Like my sister, she went to see it
the night before she watched the
:
01:13:04,634 --> 01:13:07,324
movie and then she went to see the the
:
01:13:07,324 --> 01:13:11,224
new movie and she's like The heck this
is just the same movie, but they're
:
01:13:11,234 --> 01:13:13,464
singing and I was like, yeah, buddy.
:
01:13:13,464 --> 01:13:16,364
You didn't know she's like no so I thought
:
01:13:16,554 --> 01:13:18,804
Alexandra: I didn't know, so I
guess I don't need to watch it now.
:
01:13:19,014 --> 01:13:21,967
Christine: Yeah, so it's just
it's just the musical movie
:
01:13:22,037 --> 01:13:23,127
Alexandra: All right, you know.
:
01:13:23,701 --> 01:13:28,731
Okay, so what books would you like
to see adapted into film or TV?
:
01:13:28,791 --> 01:13:29,311
Christine: Hmm.
:
01:13:29,572 --> 01:13:34,662
You know, I always love, and it's
a big undertaking, but I always
:
01:13:34,672 --> 01:13:37,132
love when fantasy is adapted.
:
01:13:37,222 --> 01:13:41,472
I understand that that's a
big undertaking as a film or
:
01:13:41,472 --> 01:13:42,492
TV project.
:
01:13:42,872 --> 01:13:45,742
But I mentioned that I read
recently Children of Blood and
:
01:13:45,742 --> 01:13:47,892
Bone, and I absolutely loved it.
:
01:13:48,232 --> 01:13:53,112
And I would love to see that as a
a TV show, and the second book I
:
01:13:53,132 --> 01:13:55,192
have, and a third book's coming out.
:
01:13:55,492 --> 01:13:56,221
And yeah.
:
01:13:56,572 --> 01:14:02,284
You know, I almost wonder, when it
comes to fantasy, if film is the
:
01:14:02,284 --> 01:14:04,764
best medium, what do you think?
:
01:14:04,784 --> 01:14:07,454
Because, because so much gets left out.
:
01:14:07,642 --> 01:14:11,722
Alexandra: Yeah, I always would say
I would prefer TV shows, like shows,
:
01:14:11,842 --> 01:14:12,372
series.
:
01:14:13,353 --> 01:14:17,763
a one book, I think a series would be
better than a film because I think I'm
:
01:14:17,773 --> 01:14:20,283
left wanting so much more out of the
:
01:14:20,293 --> 01:14:25,363
film that can maybe be better
accommodated through TV series
:
01:14:25,383 --> 01:14:26,853
or just a one off series.
:
01:14:26,988 --> 01:14:27,408
Christine: Yeah.
:
01:14:27,674 --> 01:14:29,314
What, what are you excited to see?
:
01:14:29,487 --> 01:14:30,332
hmm.
:
01:14:30,713 --> 01:14:32,693
Alexandra: part of me is like,
Oh, if something gets turned
:
01:14:32,693 --> 01:14:34,013
into a movie, will I like it?
:
01:14:34,013 --> 01:14:36,273
And as much as I like the book.
:
01:14:36,323 --> 01:14:39,523
So I kind of would like
to see the Susan C.
:
01:14:39,623 --> 01:14:43,933
Seymour series, The Dark and You, I'd be
curious to know how somebody interprets
:
01:14:44,013 --> 01:14:48,304
how all of those different, main
characters other forms look, and what the
:
01:14:48,334 --> 01:14:51,024
underground of Las Vegas would look like.
:
01:14:51,044 --> 01:14:52,254
I think it would be kind of cool.
:
01:14:54,099 --> 01:14:55,719
Cause I think there's so
much room to play with that.
:
01:14:56,299 --> 01:14:58,209
But I think I did not mention the series.
:
01:14:58,229 --> 01:15:01,759
There's a, kind of a murder mystery
series I like that also falls
:
01:15:01,789 --> 01:15:03,259
a bit within the romance genre.
:
01:15:03,299 --> 01:15:04,818
It's by Mary Force.
:
01:15:05,369 --> 01:15:08,568
And it's about the
detective Samantha Holland.
:
01:15:09,006 --> 01:15:10,986
And it's now got a spin off series.
:
01:15:11,418 --> 01:15:12,818
if I can just find it real quick.
:
01:15:13,238 --> 01:15:14,438
Oh, the Fatal series.
:
01:15:14,898 --> 01:15:15,738
That was the title.
:
01:15:15,938 --> 01:15:19,178
Because I could see like each book
being like half a season and maybe
:
01:15:19,178 --> 01:15:21,908
doing two books a season because
I think the characters are really
:
01:15:21,908 --> 01:15:23,348
interesting and the storylines.
:
01:15:23,798 --> 01:15:27,818
It's not immediately obvious who
committed the murder and I like the
:
01:15:27,818 --> 01:15:29,318
process and the characters enough.
:
01:15:29,348 --> 01:15:30,508
I think that would be kind of cool.
:
01:15:30,958 --> 01:15:33,883
But there's another called Shadow Falls.
:
01:15:34,593 --> 01:15:37,733
And I think that would be kind
of fun because that one's about
:
01:15:37,733 --> 01:15:39,433
like different supernatural
:
01:15:39,688 --> 01:15:40,348
Christine: I remember, I,
:
01:15:40,818 --> 01:15:41,708
yeah I read that one.
:
01:15:41,990 --> 01:15:43,880
Alexandra: So I think that
would be kind of interesting.
:
01:15:43,880 --> 01:15:46,309
And they all live, most of them live at a
:
01:15:46,740 --> 01:15:47,440
summer camp.
:
01:15:47,675 --> 01:15:48,595
Christine: Yeah, it's like, you
:
01:15:48,690 --> 01:15:50,274
Alexandra: So, um, yeah, yeah.
:
01:15:50,654 --> 01:15:52,464
And then it turns into
an all year school thing.
:
01:15:52,744 --> 01:15:53,124
Love it.
:
01:15:53,174 --> 01:15:56,034
So I think those are the two that I'm
thinking would be really interesting.
:
01:15:56,054 --> 01:16:00,104
But Christine, what are, what's one or
two that you have that you would like to
:
01:16:00,759 --> 01:16:01,389
Christine: So,
:
01:16:01,489 --> 01:16:06,519
yes, the Children of Blood and Bone, I
think Throne of Glass I would love to see
:
01:16:06,519 --> 01:16:11,379
that as, I think that actually
I could see that as movies just
:
01:16:11,379 --> 01:16:12,829
because there's so many of them.
:
01:16:13,092 --> 01:16:15,822
and this is just because I've
recently read the first book.
:
01:16:15,842 --> 01:16:19,192
I feel like that could be a
really cool movie like it doesn't
:
01:16:19,192 --> 01:16:20,472
necessarily need to be a show.
:
01:16:20,892 --> 01:16:22,012
But that's one.
:
01:16:22,072 --> 01:16:25,712
I'd love to see Seven Husbands
of Evelyn Hugo as a film.
:
01:16:25,732 --> 01:16:30,272
It might be in production
already as I mentioned this.
:
01:16:30,682 --> 01:16:33,912
A Darker Shade of Magic,
I loved that series.
:
01:16:34,137 --> 01:16:35,917
I would love to see that as a TV show.
:
01:16:36,127 --> 01:16:36,657
Alexandra: Okay.
:
01:16:36,752 --> 01:16:40,422
Christine: I think those, those are my top
right now that I'd love to see adapted.
:
01:16:41,249 --> 01:16:44,139
Alexandra: I'm quickly scrolling through
my digital library to see if there's
:
01:16:44,414 --> 01:16:44,784
Christine: anything
:
01:16:44,784 --> 01:16:45,184
else?
:
01:16:45,369 --> 01:16:45,879
Alexandra: else.
:
01:16:46,062 --> 01:16:48,132
Yeah, I think, I think
I covered the big ones.
:
01:16:48,376 --> 01:16:48,897
Wow.
:
01:16:48,947 --> 01:16:50,507
I think we've covered quite a lot.
:
01:16:50,567 --> 01:16:52,457
I'm trying to think of like,
have we missed anything?
:
01:16:52,457 --> 01:16:53,807
And I'm sure sure we
:
01:16:53,832 --> 01:16:54,562
Christine: I'm sure we have.
:
01:16:54,562 --> 01:16:59,432
There's, this is a, I mean, this is
already been a long conversation,
:
01:16:59,742 --> 01:17:03,202
but yeah, no, we've covered a lot,
but there's still so much more that
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we didn't even, like, I feel like we
haven't even scratched the surface.
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And I'm sure, like, later today, or
even tomorrow, I'm gonna be like,
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dang it, I wish I brought that up.
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But anyway, we'll just have to, we'll
just have to revisit this conversation.
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Alexandra: I feel like this
will be a yearly topic, at
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Christine: At least.
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I might even say, we got to talk
about this, like, a month from now.
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No, I'm kidding.
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But
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Alexandra: I think we've probably given
our listeners so much to think about, and
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I would love to hear their thoughts and
what they feel like we missed and give us
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ideas for the next time we do this topic.
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Christine: Yes, indeed.
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Well, I just want to say thank you so
much for listening and boy, we have
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